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Rogue, whose real name was recently revealed as "Anna Marie," is a member of the mutant superhero team known as the X-Men. The X-Men among the most popular characters in comics history; their stories are told in a number of comic book series published by Marvel Comics. Created by writer Chris Claremont and artist Michael Golden, the character first appeared in Avengers Annual #10, where she fought Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers), but she soon became a mainstay in the X-Men comics.
of the X-Men
Rogue was born with the mutant power to absorb the powers, abilities, and thoughts of who comes in skin contact with her. She has never had control over this ability. It happens automatically when she touches someone.
Rogue has been explicitly identified as a "Southern Baptist" in the pages of X-Men comics. One example of this was in X-Men #172 (2005). This issue features a scene in which Rogue calls her boyfriend a "Cajun boy raised in a Catholic household" and Gambit in turn calls calls her a "Southern Baptist girl."
Rogue's religious affiliation was mentioned in Newsweek. (Steven Waldman and Michael Kress, "BeliefWatch: Good Fight", published in Newseek, cover-dated 19 June 2006, page 12):
Rogue has been portrayed in the comics praying and talking about prayer.
From the earliest days of the character, Rogue has been portrayed as having come from the Deep South, the southeastern region of the United States. Rogue originally had a much thicker Southern accent than she now exhibits. Although a Southerner, Rogue never seemed very religious in mainstream Marvel Comics continuity. Although Southern Baptists are the predominant religious denomination in the region of Rogue's origin, any religious affiliation on her part remained, like her real name, a mystery. When Rogue was first introduced she was a villain, although she really had a good heart and was simply acting in accord with her villainous foster mother's wishes. So it was not surprising that Rogue exhibited little religious devotion.
A new version of Rogue has recently been overtly portrayed as a believing, devout Southern Baptist in Ultimate X-Men, part of Marvel Comics' new "Ultimate" line, which began in 2001.
Much of Rogue's past was a mystery when she was first introduced, but subsequent stories, including the Rogue limited series, have revealed a number of details. It has been revealed that Rogue lived in Caldecott County (which is fictional) in Mississippi for a few years when she was a young girl. She chaffed at the strict rules of the aunt she lived with, who gave her the nickname "Rogue" because of her unruly ways. Tired of her aunt's extremely strict rules, Rogue ran away. Rogue was still a runaway, living alone in a forest, when Mystique found her and became her unofficial foster mother.
Given Ultimate Rogue's overt Southern Baptist religiosity and the mainstream character's deep Southern roots, it seems likely that the mainstream character herself was born into a Southern Baptist family and that her strict aunt was a Southern Baptist. Rogue was orphaned, however, and raised for many years by the villainous Mystique, who clearly did not continue any religious upbringing Rogue may have had in early childhood. Mystique's partner in crime was Destiny, an older woman who sort of co-parented Rogue. Mystique and Destiny raised Rogue for about a decade and brought her into their super-villain team, the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.
During Rogue's time as a villain, she fought the superhero Ms. Marvel (a.k.a. Carol Danvers). Typically Rogue's absorption of another person's powers and consciousness is temporary, but when Rogue fought Ms. Marvel she held on to her for so long that she absorbed Ms. Marvel's alien-based powers permanently, thus gaining the powers of flight, super strength, and near-invulnerability. Rogue also found that she had permanently absorbed into her own mind Carol Danvers' thoughts and personality. This prolonged juxtaposition of Carol Danvers' consciousness with Rogue's own caused Rogue to feel as if she was going insane. As chronicled in X-Men #171, Rogue sought out Charles Xavier (leader of the X-Men, who she had fought in the past) for help.
Although the other X-Men initially distrusted this former villain, Rogue proved to be one of the stalwart members of the team. Rogue became a hero in the truest sense, and has consistently shown herself to be a woman of immense nobility, loyalty, compassion and courage. This long-lasting change has been something of a miracle, and demonstrates the goodness of Rogue's heart, as these admirable traits clearly were not what she was exposed to during most of the years of her childhood.
One scene which explicitly identifies the religious affiliation of both Rogue and Gambit (in mainstream Marvel continuity) took place during a telepathic form of "couples" therapy, facilitated by the powerful telepath Emma Frost. Because Rogue's mutant power renders her unable to physically touch anybody without temporarily stealing their thoughts and powers (or permanently damaging or killing them through prolonged physical contact), normal romantic physical contact is impossible for the couple. Emma Frost allowed the couple to interact with each other telepathically. During this session, Rogue and Gambit made allusions to the Garden of Eden, prompting them to refer to each other as a "Cajun boy raised in a Catholic household" and a "Southern Baptist girl."
Above: Rogue and Gambit participate in a telepathic form of "couples" therapy, and refer to each other as a Cajun Catholic and a Southern Baptist.
[Source: X-Men #172, "Bizarre Love Triangle, Part Two: Temptation", Marvel Entertainment Group: New York (2005), page 3; written by Peter Milligan, pencilled by Salvador Larroca, inked by Danny Miki with Allen Martinez.]
The fact that both Rogue and Gambit were willing to be completely physically intimate with each other (even telepathically) is indicative of the fact that both are rather lapsed in the Christian religious faiths they were raised in. Rogue (on the next page) declares, "It ain't no sin if y'all truly love each other," which is certainly not a Southern Baptist doctrine (although it may be frequent Southern Baptist practice).
Dialogue from: X-Men #172, "Bizarre Love Triangle, Part Two: Temptation", Marvel Entertainment Group: New York (2005), pages 3-4; written by Peter Milligan, pencilled by Salvador Larroca, inked by Danny Miki with Allen Martinez:
[Gambit, Rogue, and White Queen sit Indian style on pillows on the floor in the White Queen's office. They are wearing their full X-Men uniforms. Their eyes are closed, as they are joined telepathically.]
From: Steven Waldman and Michael Kress, "Beliefwatch: Good Fight", published in Newsweek, 19 June 2006 issue (posted online on 12 June 2006: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13249146/site/newsweek/; simultaneously posted on BeliefNet.com under headline "Holy Superheroes": http://www.beliefnet.com/story/193/story_19306_1.html; viewed 14 June 2006):
ROGUE: Would you like an apple?
GAMBIT/REMY LeBEAU: What is dis? Le jardin d'Eden?
[We see a beautiful outdoor scene. This is the mindscape where Emma has brought Rogue and Gambit together. Rogue and Gambit wear no clothes. Their Biblical references to the Garden of Eden refer to their unclad state as well as the idyllic setting. And, yes, there are double entendres incorporated into their Biblical allusions. Rogue is holding an apple out to Gambit.]
ROGUE: I like to think it could be paradise. But I'd rather not get too hung up on any strict Biblical interpretation of an any of this.
GAMBIT: You mean . . . no snakes hidin' in da grass?
ROGUE: Snakes? Trust a Cajun boy raised in a Catholic household to bring up the subject of sin.
GAMBIT: Oh? What kinda' sin did the Southern Baptist girl have in mind?
ROGUE: It ain't no sin if y'all truly love each other.
GAMBIT: But it won't mean I love you. It won't mean I'm promisin' you anything.
[Gambits words here may seem strange, an odd thing to say to the woman he has long pledged his eternal love to, but this statement of his hearkens back to what Mystique told him earlier when, disguised as new student "Foxx", she tried unsuccessfully to seduce him. Gambit has apparently manifest accidentally allowed himself to speak these words that had stuck in his mind.]
ROUGE: Wuh? What're you talkin' about?!
[Angered, Rogue starts choking Gambit, all within the mindscape of course. But we next shift focus back to the office of Emma Frost, as she ends their telepathic meeting. Gambit holds his neck, feeling real pain, although Rogue never actually touched him in the physical plane.]
EMMA FROST/WHITE QUEEN: Snap out of it, Remy. Come on.
ROGUE: Leave him screaming for all I care.
EMMA FROST: That's enough, Remy. [Emma slaps Gambit to shake him out of his dreamstate, and bring him fully to consciousness. The force with which she hits him makes it seem as if she may be angry with him as well.] I think we should call it a day. In fact, I'm not really sure you two are ready for this degree of telepathic platforming.
ROGUE: I'm ready. It's the snake in the grass who's got a problem. Though I'm sure he wouldn't have a problem with that foxxy new student.
GAMBIT: [speaking under his breath, but loud enough so that all present can hear] Wouldn't have to go through this telepathy thing with the foxxy new student.
[hurt even more now, Rogue starts walking away]
EMMA FROST: Tres bien, mon brave. Make her feel even more insecure than she already is.
GAMBIT: [Instantly remorseful about his insensitive remark, he calls out to Rogue, who doesn't stop walking away.] I didn't mean dat, cheri!
ROGUE: Go cheri yourself.
...[Adherents.com] says "X-Men"'s Rogue is Southern Baptist, Cypher from "New Mutants" is a Mormon and Elektra from "Daredevil" is Greek Orthodox. Captain America is a churchgoer, and Spider-Man sometimes addresses God in spontaneous prayer...
From: David Waters, "A Methodist can leap tall buildings? Get a grip!", published 4 June 2006 in the Memphis, Tennessee Commercial Appeal (http://www.commercialappeal.com/mca/local_columnists/article/0,2845,MCA_25341_4745647,00.html; viewed 4 June 2006):
In fact, most superheroes have religious backgrounds, according to adherents.com... Spiderman is vaguely Protestant. Rogue (of the X-Men) grew up Southern Baptist.
From: Julia Baird, "A Sunday sermon from Superman", published 22 June 2006 in The Sydney Morning Herald (http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/a-sunday-sermon-from-superman/2006/06/21/1150845241006.html; viewed 21 June 2006):
Even superheroes need a superhero, I guess.
...Superman is not the only superhero thought to be religious... Rogue from the X-Men was raised as a Baptist...
From: posted 16 May 2006 on "Theatrical Mutants" website (http://community.livejournal.com/theatrical_xmen/88814.html; viewed 16 June 2006):
Rogue (iabsorbu) wrote in theatrical_xmen, 2006-05-16 11:38:00:
I ain't blood-kin to neither Raven Darkholme nor Irene Adler, but in some sense I have long thought of them as my mothers. God -- I feel like one of those dumb kiddie books. 'Rogue has two mothers.' I guess that old Southern Baptist raising never goes away -- my aunt damn near literally drummed it into me hard enough to stick, I guess. Is it any surprise I ran away from that? Now her, I never called mother. But those two, Mystique and Destiny, yeah. I did. I do.
Hell, they brought me up, didn't they? Ten years, I reckon. Sure, they had their rules, but they didn't use no belt or Bible to enforce them. And, yes, they committed crimes. They were trying -- what was it she called it? "Social engineering." They were trying to make the world a better place. They went about it a damn funny way, but their hearts were in the right places. Anyhow, that's what I tell myself, and I think it might be partly true at least. They were good times, no matter that they were bad times too. And as for the rest, well, I always say it ain't no sin if y'all truly love each other.
Mystique taught me my powers were a gift and sometimes I even believed it. Destiny, blind for so many years, taught me that disabilities were nothing compared to our abilities. They taught me strength, and courage, and conviction, and I'll always be grateful for that -- and, mostly not meaning to, they taught me that the end does not justify the means, which I'm grateful for too -- though I doubt she'd ever appreciate me thanking her for it.
Muse: Rogue (616)
Ultimate Rogue: devout Southern Baptist
In the new "Ultimate" line of Marvel comics, Rogue is far more religiously devout than her original counterpart in mainstream Marvel continuity. Almost from the time that the "Ultimate Rogue" character was introduced, her denominational affiliation was overtly identifies as Southern Baptist. One example of the more overtly religious nature of this version of Rogue took place in Ultimate X-Men #40, when Rogue met Angel for the first time. From: Ultimate X-Men #40 (February 2004), titled "New Mutants, Part 1", pages 6-8; written by Brian Michael Bendis, pencilled by David Finch, inked by Art Thibert; reprinted in reprinted in Ultimate X-Men Vol. 8: New Mutants, Marvel Entertainment Group: New York City (2004):
[Warren Worthington III, a.k.a. "Angel", arrives for the first time at Xavier's Institute for Gifted Children. Professor Charles Xavier, his wheelchair pushed by Jean Grey. These three have walked through the Westchester mansion and emerge on the back patio. Most of the X-Men are there. Kitty Pryde and Storm are sunbathing. As Angel emerges through the back door, everybody assembled there stare at him for a moment. His wings are quite magnificent, really. Rogue, in particular, stares at Angel. Her mouth hangs open in awe or shock.]
SCOTT SUMMER/CYCLOPS: HI, I'm Scott Summers. We were just setting up the grill. We have hot dogs and burgers, or veggies if that's your preference.
KITTY PRYDE/SHADOWCAT: [Whispering to Storm] Dibs.
ORORO MUNROE/STORM: [Whispering to Kitty] Stop it, Kitty.
JEAN GREY: [to Scott] Did you guys forget my salmon?
SCOTT SUMMER/CYCLOPS: All they had was the smoked--
JEAN GREY: I hate smoked.
SCOTT SUMMER/CYCLOPS: That's why we didn't get it.
PROFESSOR CHARLES XAVIER: [speaking to Henry McCoy] Henry, show Warren to his room, if you would. Let him get situated. Afterwards we'll make proper introductoins and give him the tour. Unless you want a little time to yourself, Warren?
WARREN WORTHINGTON/ANGEL: Uh, Either way.
HENRY McCOY/BEAST: Come on, you got the room with the big window, which I think you'll . . .
PROFESSOR CHARLES XAVIER: [noticing that Rogue is still staring at Angel] Is there a problem, Rogue?
ROGUE: Y'all don't -- I mean -- What? Y'all just -- an angel with -- with wings and the whole thing just walked right in here. An angel! A real-life honest to God -- Y'all don't see that as some kind of sign?
ORORO MUNROE/STORM: Sign?
ROGUE: Way I was raised . . . angels stat walkin' the earth . . . means something bad is about to happen!
ORORO MUNROE/STORM: He didn't just appear. The Profesor found him. He's our age. He's just a guy.
PROFESSOR CHARLES XAVIER: He's a mutant, Rogue. Just like you. Just like me. Just like all of us.
ROGUE: Alls I'm sayin' is why is he like that? All the things in the world he could look like . . . he looks exactly like that? He's exactly -- he looks like somethin' right outta da Bible. Or a paintin'. Right? Y'see? What am I, nuts here? Look! We got -- over here we got a demon.
[Rogue looks to Kurt Wagner, a.k.a. "Nightcrawler", who looks in some ways like a traditional artistic representation of a demon.]
KURT WAGNER/NIGHTCRAWLER: Demon?
ROGUE: And up over here we got an angel. Why all of a sudden do we got demons and angels? Y'imagine all the kinda things we could mutate into. All the-- the forms . . . And what do we got? We got demons and angels. Looks like something right outta the Apocalypse, alls I'm sayin'-- Why isn't anyone even acknowleding how bizarre it is that we are livin' with angels and devils?
KURT WAGNER/NIGHTCRAWLER: Devils now?
ROGUE: I'm sorry, Kurt. I know you ain't a devil. I just am trying to illustrate to you-- you and the new guy-- it's-- It's something worth discusing. It's biblical. It can't just be a coincidence. It has to mean something. But clearly y'all think I'm being--
PROFESSOR CHARLES XAVIER: Rogue, there are very few truths in this world, but one of them is that religion is, and will always be, a touchy subject. We will discuss this. We will acknowledge it. But how about, for today, we let Warren settle in? Let him adjust.Just like each of you had to do. The first day at this school is quite an eye-opener. Let him unpack. We can leave the loftier discussion for another day.
ROGUE: See, y'all are mad at me.
ORORO MUNROE/STORM: No one is mad at you.
KURT WAGNER/NIGHTCRAWLER: I'm a little mad at her.
ROGUE: Aw, y'didn't hear what I was sayin'.
KURT WAGNER/NIGHTCRAWLER: You called me the devil.
From: comments on "Racism against Atheists" post on "Stormy's Corner" blog website, posted 23 March 2006 (http://stormy.blogs.com/stormy/2006/03/racism_against_.html; viewed 10 May 2006):
[from original blog post:] Atheists identified as America's most distrusted minority, according to new U of M study: News Releases: UMNnews: U of M.: "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households, university researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in 'sharing their vision of American society.' Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow their children to marry."
From: "Batwoman Is Back as a Lesbian" message board started 1 June 2006 on "The Giant in the Playground" website (http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=comics;action=print;num=1149174700; viewed 12 June 2006):
Perhaps one explanation is the negative depiction of atheists in comic books. Most superheroes [believe in God], with a majority being Christians: Superman is a Methodist, Spiderman is a Protestant, X-Man Rogue is a Southern Baptist, X-Man Nightcrawler is a Catholic. Even the Punisher is Catholic. But when it comes to villians, atheism seems to be the rule. The Joker, The Kingpin, The Green Goblin, Sabertooth, and Lex Luthor are all atheists.
Posted by: Layman | March 24, 2006 at 06:55 PM
Post by Ing on Jun 2nd, 2006, 11:17am
From: "X-Men and Religion" forum discussion page, started 21 August 2005, on ComixFan.com website (http://www.comixfan.com/xfan/forums/archive/index.php/t-35318.html):
Technically "fundamentalist" isn't a religion; it's a point of view... but I think you meant Evangelical Christians. Some include:
Superman: with the small town Christian values...
Aug 21, 2005, 03:27 pm
I remember that when Rachel decided to destroy the universe in order to kill the Beyonder and absorded Rogue/Carol's mind, I think she said something like "If I believed in God I would ask for his forgiveness" or was Rogue?"
Aug 22, 2005, 08:59 am
It was Rogue.
But Rogue has also mentioned praying etc. too. And Milligan just mentioned her as likely raised Southern Baptist/Protestant. I would think that right. And Rogue likely is mildly practicing but has her moments of anger about feeling abandon esp in the past.
Sep 4, 2005, 04:33 pm
Rogue - Also a possibility ("If I believed in God, I'd pray for forgivness") that is either her or Carol's opinion during the final conclusion on the Beyonder saga.
From: "Religion of the X-Men" message board started 15 May 2005 on Comic Book Resources website (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-58362.html; viewed 13 June 2006):
From: reader comments for "Which superhero would you see on Sunday?", posted 15 June 2006 on "Think Tankers" blog website (http://thinktankers.wordpress.com/2006/06/15/which-superhero-would-you-see-on-sunday/; viewed 15 June 2006):
05-15-2005, 05:56 PM
Do you ever wonder what religion an X-Man is? I know they are just characters, but still, just for the fun of it.
I am wondering if you could guess their religion by their character, or what they've said, etc.
05-15-2005, 06:53 PM
...Rogue must be a Southern Baptist. She was in the first cartoon but I'm sure if it that counts.
[responding to link to "Holy Superheroes" article in Newsweek, coverdated 19 June 2006; http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13249146/site/newsweek/]
From: Mirtika, "Is Superman a Methodist?", posted 15 June 2006 on "Mirathon" blog website (http://mirathon.blogspot.com/2006/06/is-superman-methodist.html; viewed 15 June 2006):
Dex - June 15, 2006
Hey, Rogue is a Southern Baptist. Well, that fits.
Is Superman Jewish, Methodist, or a Christ figure? Newsweek is examining the matter...
From: Aaron, "Hero worship", posted 16 June 2006 on "Two or Three.net" blog website (http://www.twoorthree.net/2006/06/hero_worship.html; viewed 16 June 2006):
So, I offer this nifty assemblage of charts and lists and links on comic book religion found at Adherents.com.
...Ben "The Thing" Grimm is Jewish. You already know about Nightcrawler and Catholicism. But... Rogue is Southern Baptist?
Camy Tang said:
Yeah, I can believe Rogue was Southern Baptist. She had very strong [Southern] roots...
Chris Well said:
...I'm thinking of the Fox cartoon from the 90s. Speaking of the cartoon, the "Nightcrawler" episode did challenge Rogue to think about faith, while Gambit poo-pooed it. The episode ended with Rogue finding Wolverine in a chapel reading aloud from the Psalms.
What religion is your favorite comic book character? Here is an interesting list [link to: http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/comic_book_religion.html] that explores the faith of superheroes, supervillians and other well-known comic characters.
From: "X-Men religious affiliations" thread started 1 June 2002 on rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks newsgroup (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks/browse_thread/thread/78e6830d00083d2f/102a03cd2dab9fda; viewed 13 June 2006):
As a Southern Baptist, I have only Rogue to look up to, and she's lapsed at that.
The most common religious affiliations of the heroes should be obvious: Catholic and Jewish. Many of the most well-known are simply generic Protestants (Spiderman, Captain America, Cyclops). Atheists are the most common villian, followed by Catholic and Jewish again.
From: Chris Dodson
Date: Sat, Jun 1 2002 9:38 pm
I'm looking for information on the religious beliefs of all the current X-Men for a story I'm submitting to Marvel. The only one I know for sure is Nightcrawler (Catholic). I get the impression that Wolverine is an atheist or agnostic, but I have no in-comic evidence to support this. Any help you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated. Also, in your responses, could you provide titles and issue numbers of the comics in which the information is stated? Thanks.
From: Brian Doyle
Date: Sun, Jun 2 2002 8:28 am
...Rogue and Wolverine - Both were shown praying in the X-Men cartoon, but in a fairly non-demoninational way. It was in a Christian church.
Date: Sun, Jun 2 2002 11:59 am
In X-Men 108: Rogue says [to Wolfsbane] something like "Since you're the Catholic in this group, why don't you take care of the prayers?" and Rahne replies "I've been doing so since we took off"
The dialogue is translated from my book, which is in Spanish, so maybe those were not the exact words, but it's there.
...That's it. Again, sorry about my poor English.
From: Christian Henriksson
Date: Mon, Jun 3 2002 12:06 pm
What Rogue says in English is: "Bein' our resident church-girl, why don't you handle prayers?"
Date: Tues, Jun 4 2002 6:57 pm
...As for the others, I don't know. Since most are from America or other European countries they're probably at least nominally Christian... Rogue could be anything, maybe Baptist.
Date: Thurs, Jun 6 2002 1:12 am
Way back during Secret Wars II (UXM [Uncanny X-Men] #203) she [Rogue] said something like "If I believed in God I'd ask for forgiveness."
From: Mareska Kellemvore, "No real update yet", posted 24 June 2006 on her blog website (http://mareska.livejournal.com/116525.html):
Mareska Kellemvore (mareska) wrote, 2006-06-24 12:54:00:
...I just want to post a survey of sorts to my geeky friends. Newsweek recently published an article about the religions of various superheroes. Now some have been established in continuity (Daredevil, for example, is Catholic)...
...one I might debate would be Rogue, who they placed as being raised Southern Baptist. I wouldn't be shocked if she was, but off hand I'd guess Pentecostal or non-denominational Evangelical.
From: "The Church of Superman" forum discussion started 19 June 2006 on the "James Randi Educational Foundation" website (http://www.randi.org/forumlive/showthread.php?t=58627; viewed 15 May 2007):
19th June 2006, 06:03 AM
The Church of Superman
Hmmmm... the "religious" affiliations of comic book characters. Huh?
19th June 2006, 12:01 PM
...Admittedly, some of the statements are fair guesses (Rogue was likely raised Southern Baptist until she ran away at age 8 or 10)...
From: "Whose family attends what church?" forum discussion started 11 March 2007 on ComiCon website (http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=009521;p=0; viewed 15 May 2007):
Not From Around Here
posted 04-12-2007 04:22 PM
So, if a hero character speaks with a pronounced Southern accent and isn't obviously something else, then he or she is presumably a Baptist? It's true that we are extremely common in this region, but there are lots of other possibilities!
From: Visconde Carlo Vergara, "The Faith of Heroes (Superhero Religious Trivia)", posted 14 May 2006 on "Carver's House" blog website (http://carverhouse.blogspot.com/2006/05/sony-buys-us-rights-to-iranian-comic.html; viewed 15 May 2007):
...Rogue is Southern Baptist, Multiple Man is Buddhist, and the Thing is Jewish... The site also cites the comics issues where the religious affiliations were suggested or revealed.
More heroes are presented in a table on this page [link to: http://adherents.com/lit/comics/comic_book_religion.html]. If you want pictures, look through this other page [link to: http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/comic_collage.html].
From: "What are the religious beliefs of the main mutants in the X-Books?" forum discussion started 16 January 2007 on "Comic Book Resources" website (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-160293.html; viewed 16 May 2007):
01-16-2007, 03:51 PM
What do you think the religious beliefs of the following mutants are?
01-16-2007, 07:34 PM
Rogue is atheist.
01-17-2007, 07:47 AM
Yeah, Wolverine's atheist. Nightcrawler and Shadowcat are obvious. Storm (and probably Magik) are complicated. Rogue is Christian, but I don't think we know whether that's Protestant or Catholic or something else. I don't think Longshot understands the concept of religion, so I guess that might make him an atheist. Wolfsbane is Presbyterian, Cannonball is Christian as of New Mutants (1st Series) #15. I suppose Magma believes in the Roman (Greek) gods? Forge? I think Gambit is atheist. Thunderbird III is Hindu. There are Shi'ar gods... Shaara, Kythri), Lilandra worships them.
01-17-2007, 08:18 AM
re: Rogue is Christian...
Rogue doesn't believe in God.
01-17-2007, 09:10 AM
re: Rogue doesn't believe in God.
Hmm, When was this established?
01-17-2007, 09:20 AM
re: Hmm, When was this established?
Uncanny X-Men #203.
Rogue (as she gives her life essence to Rachel): "If I believed in God, Ah'd pray for forgiveness."
From: "Superman is a Methodist..." forum discussion, started 6 Marach 2006 on "Catholic Answers" website (http://220.127.116.11/showthread.php?t=102037; viewed 31 May 2007):
Mar 6, '06, 11:46 am
Superman is a Methodist, and the best we [Catholics] can do is Nightcrawler?
Who is Nightcrawler?
Sorry -- just tickled me the right way.
Mar 6, '06, 12:04 pm
Nightcrawler is so much better than Superman. He can teleport short distances, which is better than being the "man of steel," and he's with the X-men.
Here's a picture:
Depending on which canon you read, many of the X-men are Catholic. Gambit (very Cajun Catholic), Wolverine (devout, lapsed, devout again), Rogue (sometimes listed as Southern Baptist, but is lapsed/returned Catholic in the comics, and the original cartoon), and of course Nightcrawler (is a monk in the comics and the cartoon, very devout Catholic in the movie.)
And of of course, there is always Daredevil, who is devout in his Faith.
Catholics are well represented in the world comics, don't worry.
Yours in Christ,
From: "Which superhero would be the best Muslim?" forum discussion, started 17 January 2006 on the "Muslim Student Association: University of South Florida" website (http://www.msausf.org/MSAUSF/forums/467/ShowPost.aspx; viewed 4 June 2007):
01-17-2006, 9:00 AM
Which superhero would be the best Muslim?
Salam. Me and Momodu were speaking to each other over some delicious baklava and coffee about which superhero would most likely be Muslim. I would say Batman is most likely to be a great Muslim because he practices great self-restraint when it comes to alcohol consumption, and fornication mashallah. Also, Batman does not eat pork because it slows him down in his nightly crusades against Joker and other foes. Also, he does not have time to backbite or gossip or engage in other forms of fitna because he is too busy cleaning the Batcave and changing the oil in the Batmobile. Thank You.
Momodu, on the other hand, says the Hulk would make an amazing Muslim because he always keeps his gaze lowered. Also, Momodu says the Hulk's purple pants somehow always manage to cover his a'ura, as in his body from his belly button down to his knees. Please dont be shy about showing your feelings. No one is here to judge you and all your postings are welcome.
DC and Marvel superheroes are both welcome
01-17-2006, 9:07 AM
Cyclops from the X-Men would make a good Muslim. He would be forced to lower his gaze with women. Also Rogue would make a good Muslim because she can't touch anyone.
01-17-2006, 11:41 AM
What? Cyclops has a girlfriend and Rogue was kissing Bobby in the movie. Plus, Hulk has a VERY bad temper which is totally un-Islamic. Batman was hangin out with all those crazy European women in the movie, which was really un-Islamic, and most importantly, all superheroes lie about their true identity, and Muslims never lie... lol. I'm starting to think that I watch too many movies. Ohh, what about the Incredibles? Oh wait, no, he lied to his own wife... hmmm...
The writer of the column excerpted below makes an interesting, valid point about the lack of genuine diversity among comic book characters. But this author seems to be unaware that a member of the X-Men (Rogue) really is identified as a Southern Baptist and the Ultimate X-Men version of the character really is portrayed as devout in her faith. From: Andrew Dabb, "Four Color Innocense" essay for "Under Duress" column, posted 7 May 2001 on "Ninth Art" website (http://www.ninthart.com/display.php?article=2; viewed 16 July 2007):
Why aren't more comic book heroes involved with groups like the NRA, or the NAACP, or ACLU, or PETA, or the KKK, or Nation of Islam? Why isn't a member of the X-Men actively Southern Baptist? Ninety per cent of the people on this planet believe in a Supreme Being. When was the last time you saw Wonder Woman, after defeating some terrorist, spike her lasso and thank Zeus for her powers? Why isn't there a Hindu in the JLA or a Mormon in the WildCATS? Comic book characters usually lack what makes us human; our opinions. Specifically, our unpopular ones... At least that would be different.
Even the most progressive books out there will take almost zero chances. The most controversial that mainstream comics get (and here I'm taking about comics from the larger companies; Marvel, DC, Oni, Dark Horse) is to portray homosexuality and/or drug use. Are people opposed to both? Sure. Do the creators get flack for it? Doubtless. Are these the same two issues comics were exploring a decade ago in books like X-FACTOR and GREEN ARROW? Yes. Are both prominently featured in multiple Network Prime Time sitcoms? You bet - and not only are they featured, they're often played for laughs.
From: Tom R., "It's Kabbalah-in' Time!", posted 24 July 2006 on "Father McKenzie" website (http://fathermckenzie.blogspot.com/2006/07/its-kabbalah-in-time.html; viewed 10 August 2007):
...Superman is not the only superhero thought to be religious - Wonder Woman fancied ancient Egyptian religions, Batman is said to be a lapsed Anglican or Catholic (because of the crosses on his parents' tombstones), as is the Hulk. Rogue from the X-Men was raised as a Baptist, and Spider-Man prays to what is assumed to be a Protestant God...
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