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The Religious Affiliation of Comic Book Character
Raven
of the Teen Titans

Raven has been a longstanding core member of the Teen Titans (later known simply as the "Titans"). Raven is one of the most overtly religious major characters in mainstream comics. Her religion is best described as Azarathian, with some modifications.

Raven is the daughter of a human woman and the interdimensional demon known as Trigon. Trigon is essentially the Devil (or at least a devil).

Raven is the daughter of Arella and Trigon. Arella was, for a short time before Raven was born, a member of a small religious sect known as the "Church of Blood." This church was, for all intents and purposes, a group of Satanists.


Raven: basically the daughter of Satan
Above: "Look at Raven. Her dad's basically Satan": Kid Flash thinks that Superboy having half of his DNA come from Lex Luthor doesn't necessarily mean he himself will be evil, and points Raven's parentage as an example. [Source: Teen Titans #25, DC Comics: New York, 2005; story titled "The Insiders: Part III"; written by Geoff Johns; page 12; reprinted in Teen Titans/Outsiders: The Insiders (DC Comics: New York City, 2006)]

The Church of Blood used their rituals to cause the woman to become impregnated with the offspring of Trigon.

Trigon is a demon being of immense power. He has claimed to be the Devil about which Earth's religions speak. Trigon has conquered and killed the inhabitants of innumerable worlds (sometimes said to number in the millions) in his own dimension. Trigon desired to conquer the Earth and rule the entire universe.


Raven swears in the name of Trigon
Above: "Trigon damn me": Raven swears in the name of Trigon, her father. Despite the fact that Raven has actively opposed her father's attempts to conquer the Earth, she has at times prayed to Trigon or invoked his name as a deity. It makes for a strange father-daughter relationship. [Source: Teen Titans #16 (DC Comics: New York City, 2004); written by Geoff Johns and Mark Waid, pencilled by Mike McKone, inked by Marlo Alquiza; page 11; reprinted in Teen Titans: The Future is Now trade paperback, DC Comics: New York City (2005).]

When Raven's origins were originally presented, it was clear that Arella had joined a group of Satanists. The group was trying to summon Satan himself. The demon Trigon was presented as Satan. Later some of these details were retconned and the group that Arella temporarily joined was the "Church of Blood," and the demon they summoned was Trigon, but was not referred to as Satan.

After Arella gave birth to Raven, she rejected the Church of Blood and fled. She raised Raven in the pacifistic place called Azarath, in another dimension.

Raven was raised in the devoutly religious and peace-loving culture of Azarath. Until she was a teenager, the religion of Azarath was the only religion she knew. However, as a teenager she became embroiled in repeated plots relating to her father Trigon's attempts to conquer the Earth. Raven has both worked for and against her father. On many occasions she has sought the assistance of young heroes from Earth in combatting Trigon. It was Raven herself, trying to muster a force to oppose her father, who first gathered young heroes together to form the New Teen Titans.

Over the years, Raven has been torn between her dual parentage. At times she has been a being of darkness, or even evil. At other times she has striven to be a pure being of light and goodness.

Most of the Teen Titans stories revolving around Raven have been explicitly religious in their themes and content.

Ephraim wrote to us (8 May 2006) and provided the following excellent analysis of Raven's religious history and beliefs:

Raven is very much an Azarathian, but she is somewhat reformed [i.e., modified from the "orthodox" or dominant form of the religion]. According to the laws of Azarath, one can never interfere with violence, even to save a life. Once someone has left Azarath, they can never return. Raven did both when she left Azarath and warned the Titans of Trigon's upcoming invasion. After all this, Raven still followed most of beliefs of Azarath. She was peace-loving, tried not to fight and even prayed to Azar. It simply was that she agreed there were times when violence was neccesary. Its also worth mentioning that for the first eight years of her life, Raven was raised by Azar. She was given permission by the central figure of her religion not to pray, although she does sometimes.
Raven fights Dr. Light
Above: Raven confronts Dr. Light, while contemplating her own unique religious heritage. [Source: Teen Titans #22 (DC Comics: New York City, 2005); written by Geoff Johns, pencilled by Mike McKone, inked by Marlo Alquiza; page 1; reprinted in Teen Titans: The Future is Now trade paperback, DC Comics: New York City (2005).]

From: Robert Greenberger (editor), "Who's Who" in Teen Titans: The Future is Now trade paperback (DC Comics: New York, 2005), page 4:

Raven
The daughter of a human and the demon Trigon, she has spent much of her life trying to escape her father's influence. Raven was warned to always keep her anger and frustrations in check, lest she give in to her father's demonic influence. When Trigon wanted to invade Earth, she preceded him, helping form one version of the Titans to stop him. Since then, she has opposed Trigon frequently, losing her mortal body in the process. Without a body to inhabit, Raven's soul-self wandered the world aimlessly until recently.

Ephraim's letter to us (8 May 2006) also provided a sampling of quotes of which further illuminate Raven's religious background:

New Teen Titans Vol. 2 #1:
Raven: "Azar, I beseech you. Hear my words... hear my prayers. I need you. Goddess... I... need... you... My mind is a battleground, whipped and ripped asunder, torn from the very fabric of reality."

Tales of the New Teen Titans #2
Raven: "You must know that Azar was like a god to us. She led us from Earth to Azarath and she taught and guided us for two hundred years."

Tales of the New Teen Titans #2:
Arella: "Something is wrong with her, Coman... She's given up her prayers and taken to meditation... Each day for the past three years when our studies are over she rushes here... She ignores all others, preferes solitude and quiet. She never speaks to me unless she must. Coman, I tell you sometimes I... I fear her."

Tales of the New Teen Titans #2:
Raven: "My mother could not know that all was as Azar decreed but then I could not enlighten her and break my word to Azar."

New Teen Titans Vol. 1 #6:
Arella: "A more lovely child had never graced the world. Lovely, yet frightening. For she avoided the priest... more compfortable in meditation than in prayer. Though she was raised in the peace of Azarath... Her heritage boiled with the rage of Trigon."

New Teen Titans Vol. 1 #6:
RComan: "And we all sensed that difference. The child grew and rebelled, and constantly questioned our regulations. It was inevitable that one day she would leave us... and once you leave the temple Azarath, you can never return."

Based on her name, some people believe that Raven is ethnically Jewish. There have been variations in published accounts of Raven's origin. In at least one of these versions, Raven's mother's name is "Angela Roth." Raven indeed has enrolled in high school using the name "Rachel Roth," which is certainly a Jewish-sounding name. It is not clear that either "Rachel" or "Roth" are in any way Raven's birth name. She is usually known simply as "Raven," and "Rachel Roth" may simply be an alias.

In any case, there is no evidence that Raven has ever practiced Judaism or had any Jewish identity, or even that she really has any Jewish parentage. Raven has never identified herself as Jewish, nor has she ever used worn Jewish symbols such as the six-sided Star of David. Raven's father is Trigon (or Satan), who is presumably not Jewish (or even human). Raven's mother, regardless of whether her name is "Arella" (as in most accounts) or "Angela" was a convert to either Satanism or the demon-worshipping "Church of Blood" at the time that Raven was conceived. After Raven's birth, Raven's mother was a devout convert to Azarathian religion, the religion in which Raven was raised. The possibility remains that Raven's mother was ethnically Jewish and possibly had some Jewish religious upbringing prior to becoming involved in Satanism. Scenes showing a cross in the childhood home of Raven's mother seem to suggest that Raven's mother did not have a Jewish upbringing.

Robin (Tim Drake) thinks about Raven, who is seen doing something she rarely does: wearing normal clothes
Above: "The daughter of a demon, trying to live life like a saint.": Robin (Tim Drake) his fellow Teen Titan, the mysterious Raven. [Source: Teen Titans #20 (DC Comics: New York City, 2005); written by Geoff Johns, pencilled by Tom Grummett, inked by Nelson; page 7; reprinted in Teen Titans: The Future is Now trade paperback, DC Comics: New York City (2005).]

From: "Trigon (comics)" page on Wikipedia website (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trigon_(comics); viewed 28 April 2006):

Trigon (also known as Trigon the Terrible) is a fictional villain who appears in Teen Titans comics published by DC Comics. Trigon is a large, red, four-eyed demon with antlers. He is the mysterious father of the superhero Raven, a member of the Teen Titans.

Trigon was the all-powerful ruler of an alterate dimension, who ruled in a sadistic and self-serving manner; he also desired to spread his evil to Earth's dimension...

Trigon was born in another dimension through the mating of a female member of a mystic sect and the god they worshipped. As a side effect of the pairing, he was filled with the cast-off evil energies of the inhabitants of Azarath, forming him into their personification. At birth, he killed everyone around him (including his own mother), and at age six, he destroyed an entire planet. By the age of thirty, he held dominion over millions of worlds in his dimension. Still not satisfied, he set out to invade Earth.

Arella, Raven's mother, was a depressed woman who decided to join a Satanic cult that was trying to bring Satan to Earth. (This has since been retconned as being the Church of Blood.) When the ritual was performed, Trigon emerged, disguised as a handsome male, and married Arella. Arella was soon impregnated by Trigon, at which time she discovered Trigon's true nature. After Trigon left her, Arella was on the brink of suicide when an extra-dimensional cult found her and brought her to Azarath (the otherdimensional home of the cult) where Raven was born and was taught to "control her emotions" in order to suppress and control Trigon's demonic powers that she was born with.

Eventually, Raven learned that Trigon was planning to conquer the Earth, and vowed to stop him. She initially approached the Justice League, but they refused her on the advice of Zatanna who sensed her demonic parentage. In desperation, she reformed the Teen Titans (who had disbanded earlier) with several new members in order to fight her father.

The team was eventually able to defeat Trigon and seal him in an interdimensional prison. However, Raven still had to fight her father's influence, as he was not completely destroyed. Trigon eventually escaped and came to Earth, taking control of Raven and destroying Azarath in the process. The Titans came together and killed Raven; this allowed the souls of Azarath to possess her and use her as a channel to kill Trigon.

Although Trigon is gone, his followers (led by the new Brother Blood) have tried to revive him several times.

Batman swings away; Raven is on her pilgrimage

Raven in the (possible) future: still religious

LEFT: "Dark Raven's still on her pilgrimage in Zandia."

In a possible future seen by the contemporary Teen Titans, Raven is still religious, spends time in in Zandia, and is apparently worshipping in (or worshipped by) the Church of Blood.

The Teen Titans accidentally went ten years into the future, where they met future versions of their own selves. Many of the Titans, including Raven, had become far darker versions of their contemporary selves. Nevertheless, Raven (or "Dark Raven" as she had come to be called) was still a very religious character. In this panel, Conner Kent (contemporary Superboy, future "Superman") tells Tim Drake (contemporary Robin, future "Batman") over a radio link that Raven is on a religious pilgrimage in Zandia.

This brief line of dialogue indicates that this future version of Raven probably has strong ties to the Church of Blood that was the one-time church of her mother, and the church which worshipped her demonic father.

Zandia is a fictional island nation within in DC Universe. It lies in the Mediterranean near the coast of Italy. Atlas of the DC Universe (http://www.karridian.net/dcatlas.html) describes the small nation: The nation of Zandia is a small island that is considered safe harbor for criminals the world over. For centuries the island was under the control of the Church of Brother Blood."

[Source: Teen Titans #17 (DC Comics: New York City, 2004); written by Geoff Johns, pencilled by Mike McKone, inked by Marlo Alquiza; page 7; reprinted in Teen Titans: The Future is Now trade paperback, DC Comics: New York City (2005).]

Discussion

A comic book reader with a particular interest in Jewish superheroes sent us the following (8 June 2006):

Raven is Jewish by birth. Despite the ridiculous placing of a cross in her mother, Arella (like Ariela)'s childhood room in the latest telling of Raven's origin, her last name is ROTH. Hard to get more Jewish than that.

From: "Who is your religious superhero" discussion board, started 14 March 2006, on "Ship of Fools: The Magazine of Christian Unrest" website (http://forum.ship-of-fools.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=006489; viewed 24 April 2006):

Spiffy da WonderSheep
Posted 21 March, 2006 18:34

Is it scary I'm going down the list and saying, "Well, what about Starfire and Raven? Why aren't they on these lists?"

(Starfire worships X'Hal, you know, and well, Raven's said multiple times the demon Trigon hears her prayers [and sometimes answers them, with wacky results])

Excerpts from: "Atheist superheroes" discussion page, started 2 March 2006, on "Atheist Network" website (http://atheistnetwork.com/viewtopic.php?p=209834&sid=5ca5d2a99f2714e2f90fcee608eb4ac4; viewed 26 May 2006):

Aghast
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:42 am

It's good to see that Mr. Terrific is still an atheist...

Of course if I were in the DC Universe I would be a believer in the supernatural if not an outright theist [i.e., believer in God]. After all, the heroes of that universe have been to Hell. They've stood before the hosts of heaven. Not only does Spectre exist but so does Deadman, Zatanna, Swamp Thing, Ragman, Raven and Dawn Manitou, Shazam, and on into near infinity. ...even the original Green Lantern got his power from magic. And Hal Jordan/Green Lantern was the freakin' Spectre for awhile. Add to that the number of characters that come back from the dead and really in that reality there would be no real reason to doubt.

...not surprisingly more villains are revealed to be atheists than heroes...

From: "Catholic Clix - Comic info needed!" forum discussion started 3 May 2003 on HCRealms website (http://www.hcrealms.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-40338.html; viewed 24 May 2007):

thornnspear
05/03/2003, 21:04

Ok, so in recent films it's been apparent that Daredevil and Nightcrawler are Catholic...

So, who else out there could be fielded in a "Catholic" Heroclix team?


Redwolf
08/16/2003, 20:58

Has anyone thought of Raven and Scarlet Witch, Dr. Strange. Clea (Strange's wife), Agatha Harkness (Wanda's tutor)? They are studying witchcraft and sorcery - a religion known as Wiccan.

From: "Religious Affiliation of Comic Book Characters" forum discussion, started 10 March 2007 on "Brian Michael Bendis" part of "Comic Creator Boards" section of "Jinxworld Forums" website (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/archive/index.php/t-106242.html; viewed 6 June 2007):

JoeE
03-10-2007, 10:46 AM

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/comic_book_religion.html

An ASTONISHINGLY detailed site that delves into the religions of superheroes. Someone has WAY too much time on their hands.


John Drake
03-10-2007, 10:54 AM

Not a lot of atheists.


Keith P.
03-10-2007, 11:07 AM

Yeah, its kind of hard to be an atheist when you encounter gods and abstract entities on a semi-regular basis.

Even hard in the DCU, which is why I thought Mr. Terrific was a dumbass.

I mean c'mon. Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman draw their powers from ancient Pantheons, Raven is a daughter of a demon, the Spectre is the Spirit of God's vengeance, things like Etrigan, Zauriel, not to mention the various characters actually, you know, going to Heaven and Hell for whatever reason.

From: "Superheroes/villains and their religions" forum discussion, started 16 March 2006 on "Animation Insider" website (http://www.animationinsider.net/forums/archive/index.php?t-17835.html; viewed 28 June 2008):

Daikun
03-16-2006, 05:16 AM

Someone pointed this out at another forum. I found it to be quite amusing that someone would actually have enough time on their hands to ponder about this.

http://www.adherents.com/lit/comics/comic_book_religion.html


Tasermon's Teammate
03-17-2006, 06:22 AM

...The only TT [Teen Titans] member the mentioned that I saw was Aqualad. And of course he's Atlantean.


Dr. Killbydeath
03-17-2006, 03:03 PM

Well, as far as the Titans go, Raven is obvious. Superboy is the same as Superman. Wonder Girl is the same as Wonder Woman. Kid Flash is the same as Barry Allen... Starfire follows the Tamaranian religion.


The Kaiser
04-02-2006, 11:04 PM

...how is Raven's religious views obvious? She's the daughter of an interdimensional demon, but I don't think that means she's a Satanist or whatnot. Or do you mean Azarathian? Apologies if so.


Desolate
04-02-2006, 11:12 PM

Well, she practices witchcraft so my natural assumption is Wicca. Satanist? I doubt it since she doesn't like her father who according to the comic is widely considered in many universes to be "Satan".


Vendetta
05-01-2006, 06:44 PM

They also list Trigon himself as a "Satanist", among other things.

Personally, I doubt he would have wanted anything to do with either of them. He's not interested in being worshipped anyway.

[NOTE: The following forum discussion about the religious affiliations of the Teen Titans comes from late 2004 and the first half of 2005. The material thus completely pre-dates the creation of Adherents.com's "Religious Affiliation of Comic Book Characters" section. Much of the following discussion may appear inane, and the opinions proffered are often without textual basis. Much of this is guesswork. The people posting in this forum discussion appear to base their discussion on the Teen Titans animated TV series at least as much as comics. For all its flaws, we have re-produced this forum discussion here in its entirety because it has value. If nothing else, readers of this material can get a glimpse of general impressions formed by viewers of the Teen Titans animated series and readers of the associated comic books.]

From: "TT Religions" forum discussion, started 1 November 2004 on "Titans Go" website (http://forums.titansgo.net/viewtopic.php?t=668; viewed 1 June 2007):

Azarath Princess
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:25 pm

What religions do you think the Titans are?

Here's mine:
Robin: shinto or some other Japanese discipline based one
Starfire: whatever Tamaranians believe in
Beast Boy: pagan
Raven: possibly pagan, maybe a darker form
Cyborg: atheist
Terra: ??? Help with that one.

What do you think?


relenz
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:27 pm

Brother Blood is clearly Southern Baptist.

And Slade is almost definitely a member of the Swordbearers.

(15 points to anybody who gets that reference.)


Azarath Princess
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 12:33 pm

Oh yes, definitely a Southern Baptist. And maybe Terra's Muslim!! Laughing


Sonic Titan
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:09 pm

Oh mein gaut. Are you serious, or was it a joke?

Here's my take:
robin sez: "Christian."
cyborg sez: "Catholic"
raven sez: "There is no god"
star [Starfire] sez: "Glorp!"
terra sez: "Muslim."
bb [Beast Boy] sez: "What's religion?"

As you can probably tell, I'm just screwing around.


Guile
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 7:07 pm

Ah ha! I've got some:

Robin: Unorthodox Ashism, the religion that involves working at a supermarket and spouting one-liners ad nauseum (Robin is unorthodox because all of his are lame)

Starfire: Some freaky-deaky Tamaranian religion that involves dancing around naked with a chicken

Cyborg: Alvis-time, the holiday of drinking and vengeance

Beastboy: Doesn't know, but can't even spell religion.

Raven: Whatever it is that half-demons must worship while wearing a spandex leotard, and having a shard of glass forcibly shoved into your forehead upon birth.


The Muffin Man
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 8:04 pm

Robin I'd say Christian or agnostic.

Cyborg, despite it being slightly stereotypical, many black families are deeply religious. Catholic is right here too.

Raven doesn't have the same Gods so I'd say Pagan/Atheist.

BB [Beast Boy] is an atheist.

Starfire would either have a Tamaranian God/dess or agnostic.


Chief M2
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:49 pm

Clearly out of all of them, I wouldn't expect anyone to say that Cyborg was the atheist. He should clearly be the Baptist (hopefully before he got his armor) Wear rubber gloves, preacher.

As for Terra: what the Russians believe in. (My theory still)


relenz
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:57 pm

In ze Communist Russia,
RELIGION VORSHIPS YOOOUUUU!!!


catspee
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:57 pm

Robin: Jewish
Beast Boy: Jewish
Raven: Azarathian... or a Buddha lover.
Starfire: A space version of people who respect mother nature.
Cyborg: Jewish... or atheist
Terra: Muslim... or catholic.
Dr. Light: Total whatever Arabics believe in...


Chief M2
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:58 pm

Warp - Whatever the French believe in. (Catholic?)


Nitro
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:25 pm

Mad Mod - Britishism. He founded a new religion because he found all religions that did not focus on Biscuits atrocious.


Chief M2
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:28 pm

Now we're just making up religions. I think the British are Catholic too.


Nitro
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 8:33 pm

Haha. Well Mad Mod would do it. He only changed the whole USA into a strange British Fiesta, imagine what he could do to the Catholic Religion?


kiyo-chan
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:45 pm

Mad Mod worships Monty Python. And the Beatles. There's enough evidence in the chase scenes alone and crashing feet to prove that.

So far as the other Titans go, considering that Robin grew up around Batman, who doesn't believe in God, and also considering that Robin thinks a lot, he's probably agnostic. I can see Cyborg being of some Christian sect. He's a little too perky to a Jehovah's Witness or Southern Baptist and eats too much to be Mormon (no offense to any Mormons or Jehovah's Witnesses out there...), I'd say he's just good old Baptist or Catholic or something. Raven is probably something along the lines of a Azarathian equivalent of Wicca (and real Wicca....not just someone who walks around saying they are so because it's cool and trendy these days.), Beast Boy being an earth-y boy might be Buddhist (He's vegetarian too so that fits as well...), and Starfire is something weird and weirder. I'm out of ideas. Those last few were kinda half-efforted heh.

Actually, I don't think the Titans have any time to even bother with a religion, with the exception of Raven since her powers seem to be based upon whatever it is she practices, but it's a fun thought...


Nitro
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:13 pm

All practices of Britishism, me ducky. *winkwink*


Azarath Princess
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:19 pm

Wiccan! Raven rocks. And I hate those posers...


kindpastor
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:03 pm

...my religion pics (don't worry, they're real)

Robin: WASP (White Anglo-Saxxon Protestant)
Raven: WICCA (all that pagan stuff)
Cyborg: Black Muslim (Boo-yah, muhulla hulla allaaaa...eya!)
Beast Boy: Jewish (Because he's an annoying comedian, like Woody Allen)
Starfire: Religious Scientist (because they're into that huggy lovey "lets be friends" crap)
Terra: Doesn't have time for religion because she's always on the move, but I'd say she was baptized under the Markovian Orthodox church.


DragonShadow
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 8:44 pm

Raven, despite being somewhat like a stereotypical "witch" as far as her mannerisms, powers, and even being called one, seems to have nothing to do with Wicca at all aside from the fact that she spends a lot of time in meditation (in order to keep her powers under control). She doesn't give a damn about the Earth, she doesn't carry a pentagram, she has nothing to do at all with anything remotely Pagan aside from having cool powers and looking somewhat "witchy". It's like calling her a Goth. The similarities are only skin deep.


[http://forums.titansgo.net/viewtopic.php?t=668&postorder=asc&start=25]

kindpastor
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:12 pm

She's [Raven] a different sect, one of the arcane ones that flourished after the introduction of Roman culture.


BBsBro
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:45 pm

Okay, this is stupid, but... (and, cough/uncough, Robin isn't Japanese...)

Robin = something Christian MAYBE... Most likely agnostic or whatever that one person said.

Starfire = Tamaranian religion. You notice all the holidays and festivals she celebrates?

BB [Beast Boy] = VEGANISM! Shocked (except for pie. he loves pie. especially the greatest pie in the history of pie. Razz ) Maybe Buddhism.

Raven = "What is 'god'? I only know of demons and creepy evil things." (jk [just kidding]) Maybe the Azarathian religion.

Cy [Cyborg] = Uh... idk [I don't know]. maybe none.
Terra= some religion where they worship "mother Earth" Razz Maybe Taoism.
Jinx= Pagan. She's a witch.
Mammoth= Animal Worship (lol)
Ginx= "Church? Ha! I haven't been in one of those in six years! I only worship the almighty Glowing Box. And the god of computers."
Brother Blood= "I VANT TO DRINK YOUR BLOOOOD!!"
Slade= Sadism. (Maybe also sadomasochism...ew. Shocked)
Hive Head Mistress= Britishism. Razz
Bumble Bee= Feminism. Shocked
Aqualad= Atlantean religion. Probably has something to do with the sea or animals or something..
Blackfire= "Reli...gion? Oh yeah! I think they had that at this one big place with pointy towers that I stole stuff from!"
Red X (new)= "Looking out for number 1." (maybe slight narcissism?)
Mad Mod= Britishism, with slight "hatred towards goody-goodys and teenagers"-ism.


BBsBro
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:54 pm

Haha! BUDDA BUDDA BUDDA! (don't ask) YOU THINK ROBIN IS JEWISH?! HAHAHA! (That religion where people respect mother nature is called Taoism, Miss bunny.)


BBFan
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:06 pm

Terra - Doesn't know religion no influence
Robin - What ever batman is
BB [Beast Boy] - Christian (He seems to know the story of Jonah and the Whale LOL)
Cyborg - Dunno
Starfire - Tamaranian
Rae [Raven] - Demons???


Guile
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:25 pm

Chief M2 wrote: As for Terra: what the Russians believe in.

What did I tell you?! I knew she was a freakin' commie!!!


BBsBro
Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 11:30 pm

No she's not, she's Swedish. Why? Cuz I said so. And there was an extremely faint Swedish accent. Razz


Kain
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:01 am

Beastboy is probably a Communist too, he'd do anything to get a chick.

Then again, if I was green... I'd be pretty desperate too.


kindpastor
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 8:54 pm

She's Markovian, ya bumble brains, at least if the comic book corresponds to the TV show. Now, where is Markovia ya ask?

Yes, photo courtesy of "Atlas of the DC Universe": http://www.karridian.net/dcatlas.html#vlatava


Raven_001
Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:20 pm

Raven believes in the god/goddess of Azarath. I do remember in "Fractured" when Raven was chasing Larry saying "the book of Azar is not a toy."


TTgirl56
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:03 pm

Robin: Doesn't have a religion
BB [Beast Boy]: Doesn't have a religion
Cyborg: Maybe some sort of Christianity
Starfire: Vegan (have no idea what that is but I think I remember reading it somewhere)
Raven: Pagan

Yeah, Ok, I know, this sounds boring, but to me it only makes sense. Well except for the fact that I think I believe that Cyborg doesn't have a religion either, But I think Starfire has one, and by the way it looks I think Raven has one too, anyway, this pretty much sums up my ideas.


Karakeha
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:41 pm

-Robin: I'd say Lutheran.
-Starfire: In the comics, she always says "Thank Xhal". So, I'd say she is Xhalian. XD
-Raven: I'd say she's part of the blood clan. Considering, they worshiped her father, and brought her back from the dead, bald >>;. If she isn't, she's probably Pagan.
-Cyborg: It's obvious he's Catholic. :3
-Beast Boy: Probably Jewish, or atheist. He just looks like he'd look good in a yalmulka.
-Terra: She's probably Baptist.
-Slade: Muslim! XD
-Brother Blood: He's part of the blood clan, but if he wasn't, then he's probably be Jewish.
-Mumbo: Um... Agnostic?
-Mad Mod: I'm guessing Catholic?
-Dr. Light: Amish! XD
-Gizmo: Buddhist? Maybe?
-Jinx: She looks Christian...
-Mammoth: Yeah, I'd say he's Amish.
-Bumblebee: She's probably that African one that I don't know the name of. You know, the one that celebrates Quwanzuh[sp?]?
-Aqualad: Jewish.
-Speedy: Christian probably.
-Hotspot: Atheist.
-Mas y Menos: >.O Catholic?
-Wildebeest: AMISH! Very Happy
-Rancid: He looks pretty Atheist.
-Larry: Imp-ish. XD
-Goth Boy [I'm gonna start calling him David]: He worships de vampires! O.O
Anybody else I forgot is Muslim.


Undr
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 8:50 pm

Robin: Cath or Luth? [i.e., Catholic or Lutheran]
Starfire: whatever is on her homeplanet.
BB [Beast Boy]: hmm... Christian of some sorts? I really dont know.
Cyborg: I dont know. he is pretty hardy.

Raven: this one is odd. alot think Atheist, but she knows of the supernatural and she knows of demons. and she hates the demons. so I'd think she would be clouded from the truth reguardless of what it is. somehow I doubt that Trigon wants her to know what can banish him. Christian belief is that you cant be possesed if your a believer. so I doubt that she is a Christian. though I cant see her being involved in anything dark either. and magic dosnt = Christian. so I'll say Agnostic. she does seem very confused abou this sorta issue.


savetheyak
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:12 pm

Robin = Christian.
Star [Starfire]= Orthodox Tamaranian religion.
BB [Beast Boy]= Buddhism
Raven= Probably nothing. Definitely not an Earth religion.
Cy [Cyborg]= Christian
Terra= Atheist or agnostic (not like she had time to go to church if she was homeless and on the run)
Jinx= Jewish (because she's cool)
Aqualad= Atlantean religion. Possibly a very old Pagan religion that died out shortly after Atlanti sank into the ground.
Blackfire= Same as Starfire, but only if it doesn't interfere with her fun.


RavenStar
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 8:23 pm

Raven's very much more eastern religion. I'd say she'd be more inclined towards Buddhism than BB [Beast Boy]...


Poison in the Blood
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:15 pm

Raven- New Age
Beast Boy- Undecided (Jewish-my brother says)
Starfire- The Tamaranian equivilant to Christianity
Robin- Basic Protestant (meh)
Cyborg- Kwanzaa-ish-ism (whatever the hell that one is)

And they all celebrate CHIRSMAHANAKWANZAKA! (I LOVE THE COMERCIAL!)

oh yeah, Trigon- SATANIC (he lubs himself!) maniacal laughter


Sutoraikaa the Wolf
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 2:15 pm

Robin: He seems like one of those people whp put out a good guy personality to hide the fact that they are a Mason or a member of the Illuminati. I think he's Masonic.

Beast Boy: He looks like he'd wear a yamulka (spelling?). He seems Jewish to me.

Raven: Wants to pass as a witch, but in reality she's a Catholic, but since she went to a Catholic school she doesn't want to be one. Very Happy

Starfire: I'm not touching that one...
Cybrog: I'd say a Christian because a lot of Africans in the urban areas tend to be that.
Bumblebee: Same as Cy [Cyborg].
Brother Blood: Satanic cult, most definitely.
Slade: Some assassin's belief system that could have some connection to Bushido.
Speedy: Probably goes to wherever Robin goes.
Johnny Rancid: Same as Brother Blood.
Aqualad: Some Atlantian religion.
Jinx: Most likely Wiccan, although in the comic she was an Indian Sorceress, so probably a middle East religion.
Gizmo: Scientology duh...
Mammoth: Most likely Muslim.

Cinderblock, Overload, and Plasmus: I think they may be stupid enough to think that Alex Trebeck from Jeopardy is some sort of Messiah that they worship the show like some ceremony.

Dr. Light: Arabic religion maybe.


maddierulezyou
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 9:34 am

Cyborg-Dead Catholic.
Raven-I dont know. She may be religious because if she know theres a devil, then there must be a god or heaven right?
Starfire-BLORTHOGIAN
BeastBoy-Strike me as a Jew who only goes to synogauge(sp?) on holidays
Robin-Catholic


sky.davis
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 8:12 pm

Hmm... I think--
Robin: Agnostic
Starfire: The religion on Tameran, however, going with Earth religions I would say Christian
Cyborg: Christian, maybe Catholic, but leaning toward Christian

Beastboy: Jewish, he converted solely for the jokes, insulting many comedians. (heh, brownie points to whoever gets the reference Very Happy) However, I can see him celebrating Christmas too...

Raven: Eh, I dunno...


Nightwing11
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:32 pm

Robin: Either Shinto or Atheist
Starfire: Tamaranian religion
Cyborg: Southern Baptist
BB [Beast Boy]: Atheist
Raven: A mix of Buddhism and (ugh) Wicca


Ayria
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 4:50 pm

Nightwing11 wrote: Raven: A mix of Buddhism and (ugh) Wicca

What's wrong with Wicca? Suits me just fine.

Robin: Agnostic
Cyborg: Protestant (not sure which one) Christian
Beast Boy: Probably Christian maybe Catholic
Starfire: Whatever religion exists on Tameran

Raven: We've had the most hints as to what religion she may be. Right now, no religion, but definitely interested in Wicca. In "Prophecy" I'm told she creates a circle, also using four white candles with it, which would definitely be Wicca. She uses white candles for meditation in "Episode *insert random numbers here*" which is another sign. And she believes in the things that go along with the religion. And meditation is also a part of Wicca in order to help you control your energies. However, the chakra are of yoga philosophy.


Windspark
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 8:52 pm

Isn't X'Hal or whatever Starfire's Tamaranian religion or somethin like that?


CyDude12
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:18 pm

Robin: Christian
Cyborg: Christian
Beast Boy: Atheist
Starfire: Tamaranian
Raven: Azrathian or Wiccan


Neko
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 9:39 pm

Windspark wrote: Isn't X'Hal or whatever Starfire's Tamaranian religion or somethin like that?

X'Hal is the Goddess of Victory/War, something akin to the Greek's Athena (or Nike, if you go with the victory part). This makes sense, because the Tamaranians are a warlike people.


Unbridled Joy of Flight
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 12:27 am

Like I said, I need to macro this. Summary of X'hal (and other things Tamaranian) from TitansTower.com. Should be added that X'hal is insane.


SparkyX
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:23 am

It looks like most of you guys refer "Muslim" as the "evil". I feel pretty offended, 'cause I'm a Muslim myself.

Lucky I'm having a good mood. I'll take that as a joke.


Pirate Squirrel
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:31 am

Robin: Agnostic
Starfire: Tamaranian based religion.
Cyborg: Probably some denomination of Christianity

Beast Boy: Agnostic but possibly a bit Christian as well - I don't think he's disciplined enough to follow with the daily prayers of Hinduism or Buddism. I don't know about Buddism but if memory serves Hindus must pray to their God of choice every morning at least.

Raven: Well, I don't know if she has so much a religion than a 'way of life'. Perhaps this is just the culture of Azarath?


maddierulezyou
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:20 pm

That seems to be true for Raven. They seem to live their religion more then practice it on Azarath


Neko
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:24 pm

Robin- Atheist
Cyborg- Baptist
Starfire- Those crazy Tamaranians worship X'hal, so....yeah. I guess that could be considered Pagan on Earth.
Raven- Wicca or some old Pagan religion with some eastern religion in the mix.
Terra- Agnostic

Beast Boy- Hmm, a toughie. Maybe Agnostic with a hint of Buddism and Christian thrown in? Or maybe some New Age as well. That's it, he follows BEAST BOY-ISM!


DemonicCrow
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:02 pm

Here's my views:
Robin-Agnostic
Starfire-Some Tamaranian religion
BB [Beast Boy]-I dunno...most likely a nature revolving religion.
Terra-Atheist
Raven:Occult
Cyborg:Hmm...Christian


Roar the Mighty
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:08 am

Anyway this is what I'm thinking...
- Robin: Baptist.
- Starfire: Some wierd Tamarainian religion that requires her to marry a large green blob at the tender age of 16.
- Raven: I see her as... an atheist. Or a Budhist because of all the meditation she does.
- Cyborg: Catholic.
- Beast Boy: Jewish.
- Terra: See seems like she's Wiccan to me...
- Slade: I just don't think he's religious; at all.
- Brother Blood: He's probably part of a cult. Check out the robes, man!
- Gizmo: Either a Scientologist, an atheist, or a Buddhist. I think it'd be so funny to see him meditate! Ommmm... Ommmm... Ommmm...
- Jinx: Wiccan.
- Mammoth: Jewish.
- Mas y Menos: Catholic. No question about it.


Wymsical
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:26 pm

It can be easy in some ways to know which religions Robin, Cyborg and Beastboy may believe in, but as for Starfire and Raven, they are alot harder. I guess the prehaps follow the Gods of their own homeworlds.


[http://forums.titansgo.net/viewtopic.php?t=668&postorder=asc&start=75]

Enoch
Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:21 am

based on the way they act I would say that they are all aethiests


FocusedShadow
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:29 pm

Robin: I'd say Robin is Shinto or Buddhist, but this is a bit tougher than the other boys.
Cyborg: Christian, or Ethiopian Jew...
Beast Boy: Not the foggiest idea. I'd say Agnostic.
Starfire: Whatever religion there is on Tamaran. We know that all of the people there worship X'Hal, though.
Raven: Occult, or whatever is on Azarath. They seem very spiritual and worship Azar, if I remember.
Terra: Whatever they go for on Markovia. But, I will say that Terra believes in Sladeism Wink


Rocketman
Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:05 pm

FocusedShadow wrote: Terra: Whatever they go for on Markovia.

COMMUNISM!


Rosefire
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:45 am

I thought Terra was a fasicist because she was attempting to "liquidate" the Titans, all considered to be of "inferior" races and not Aryan. Hey, she's got blonde hair and blue eyes while the Titans are a mix of different ethnics and cultures. This all stemming from a fan art drawing I saw of Terra as a getsapo agent, but already that's getting a bit too far.

I see BB [Beast Boy] as Jewish, certainly the comedian and health nut with his tofu cravings. And Robin is Jewish because. . . he was good to his mother. Surprised


[Stellar]
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:05 am

These are just mere inferences, please don't be offended. xD

Robin: Possibly Christian or Catholic.
Cyborg: Atheist. His parents were scientists, people.

Raven: Also atheist. I doubt after everything she's been through or the way she was raised would give her any options to begin with. If she does practice some form of spiritual guidance or code, it would probably be what she was taught in Azarath.

Beast Boy: Seems like another atheist to me.
Starfire: Whatever the Tamaranian religion is, I think she's referred to some sort of deity during the show, something about 'Soandso the all seeing'.
Terra: Agnostic, maybe? She doesn't seem like the type of person who can really stick with something, especially after betraying the Titans.
Jinx: The religion from her Eastern Indian temple. I have no idea what it is.
Gizmo: He probably doesn't care about religion at all.
Mammoth: Atheist. He was picked on as a child, and he's a villain.

Brother Blood: Well, his ancestor Brother Sebastian was a Christian who obtained the 'prayer shawl of Christ' which slows down the aging process and whatnot. After generations of leading a radical cult, the Christian faith was probably forgotten the day Brother Sebastian started the whole thing. Thus, the present Brother Blood is probably an atheist.

Slade: Religion . . . ha.


Pirate Squirrel
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 12:34 pm

[Stellar] wrote: Cyborg: Atheist. His parents were scientists, people.

Where is it written that one cannot be both religious and a scientist? I'm a tad offended by that but I'll get over it.


Spazz
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2005 11:49 pm

About the whole Muslim thing (yes SparkyX I'm Muslim too) if Slade were Muslim he wouldn't go manipulating and all that crap he does, and if Terra were Muslim see above and she would look much more decent...

not to mention pray a lot.

From: "Sacreligious amd anti-Christian Comic characters" forum discussion, started 28 February 2007 on official DC Comics website (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000107545&start=0&tstart=15; viewed 19 July 2007):

mavericker
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 12:49 PM

Lets see:
Zauriel
The Spectre
Nightcrawler
Storm
Raven
Supergirl
Venom
Lobo
Zatanna
Scarlet Witch
Juggernaut
Dr. Strange
Dr. Fate
Any character that uses magic, sorcery


alexziq
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 12:58 PM

Is this crap serious? This all depends on what faith you practice. It's conservative braindead and downright dangerous thinking like this that makes more and more people turn on the church...

Good Lord, (sigh)


mrterrific
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 1:19 PM

Sure, I can possibly see why Zauriel, the Spectre, Raven, the magic users and even Storm (since she is sometimes refered to as a godess) could be called sacrilegious...


[http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000107545&start=30&tstart=15]

oldfangirl
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 11:20 PM

Comments on Mavericker's list:

...Raven - Groan, not again. (Remembering previous posts by Mavericker.)...

"Any character that uses magic, sorcery."

WHY?

The actual dictionary definition of sacreligious follows:
From the Oxford dictionary:
Adjective form of Sacrilege
Noun. Robbery or profanation of sacred building.
Outrage on consecrated person or thing.
Violation of what is sacred.

These are fictional characters!!!
Which of them have robbed or profaned a sacred building, committed an act of outrage on a consecrated person (well LOBO Probably) or violated what is sacred?

EVIDENCE PLEASE???

And if you think these characters are sacreligious, why don't you just avoid the books that use them?

Is Elfquest sacreligious because the elves have no organized religion?


edvader
Posted: Mar 3, 2007 6:24 AM

Mavricker: I was joking on another thread about sluttiest people. Using your logic: Sabrina the Teenage Witch is evil as is Harry Potter. Forgot-Harry Potter's universe is an Alternate History Universe where things operate different and magic is science. The magic term is used so not to turn off non-Science fiction readers. The broomsticks, for instance, are personal flyers. How about the Wizard of OZ-movie and book? E---Ville! Don't come to me quoting the Bible out of context as you fundamentalists do. Raven is a humanoid Alien from another planet and looks human. Do NOT apply human standards to aliens from outer space. BTW I also forgot Is Klaatu from Day the Earth Stood Still evil? Hmm? He takes the name of Carpenter is killed and arises from the dead. What a moron you are. Troll!

From: "Vegetarian Superheroes" forum discussion, started 18 March 2005 in Brian Michael Bendis section of "Jinxworld" website (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/archive/index.php/t-231.html; viewed 31 July 2007):

03-18-2005, 01:01 PM
So... out of curiousity are there vegetarian superheroes? I'm not talking about supporting characters, but the actual heroes who wear tights and a cape. And are any of them vegan?


Rob_Ellis
03-18-2005, 01:03 PM

...Teen Titans: Raven and Beast Boy.

From: "Need Help With A Research Project" forum discussion, started 9 December 2005 on the "Comic Bloc" website (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-16070.html; viewed 6 August 2007):

Atom-Smasher
December 13th, 2005, 10:40 PM

Age: 19
Gender: Male
Religon: Reform/Conservative Jewish (somewhere in between the two)

...5e. Raven represents mercy. Her ability to drain emotions allows her to heal others and give them confidence...


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