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Lobo

Lobo is a convert to the First Celestial Church of the Triple Fish God. He even became an Archbishop in this star-spanning denomination.

Discussion

From: "Comics and Faith/Religion" forum discussion, started 12 August 2007 on Jinxworld website (http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?t=122876; viewed 18 August 2007):

08-12-2007, 08:30 PM
SethInAz

I am looking for some new comics, or old ones I've missed, dealing with faith and religion. So far I have... I am looking more for mini-series. It need not be pro- or anti- religion, I am open to both. Suggestions?


[http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showthread.php?s=b918169ca7f50ff6b56d0e77c11d1890&t=122876&page=2]

08-12-2007, 09:32 PM
McGeyser

[Posts image: cover of Lobo's Back No. 4, which portays Lobo as an angel, complete with a golden halo over his head and broad angel wings. Nevertheless, Lobo has a menacing look on his face and wields a large gun. The caption reads: "Our Lobo, Who Art in Heaven"]

Lobo's Back #4: showing Lobo as an angel in Heaven

From: "Religion in Comics" forum discussion, started 17 May 2007 on official DC Comics message board website (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?messageID=2003785241; viewed 7 June 2007):

kingaliencracker
Posted: May 17, 2007 8:37 AM

Yesterday, I read Action Comics #849, and the issue had several religious references and implications. Because of this, I decided to discuss it with everyone else here. Does religion have a place in comic books?


Sumo
Posted: May 17, 2007 9:43 AM

Actually religion can do a lot to inform you of a character's backstory.

What if you found out your fave was into Scientology? Zen? or maybe as a Moslem? Christian Scientist.

...Obviously Wonder Woman believe in the ancient gods or the Greek pagans.

And Lobo's conversion to the Church of the Threefold Fish [actually: First Celestial Church of the Triple Fish God] really made that arc work a lot better than if maybe he was being mind controlled...

Plus we have a universe with an entire planet that worships Darksied.

From: "The Religious Affiliation of Comic Book Characters" forum discussion, started 27 June 2007 on "City of Heroes" website (http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8576731; viewed 6 July 2007):

Darc_Reign
06/27/07 02:31 PM

The Religious Affiliation of Comic Book Characters [link to: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8576731]

My Local newsradio station pointed this site out.

Let the battle begin.


[http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=8576731&page=0&fpart=2&vc=1]

Mighty
06/27/07 07:49 PM

Wow, it's updated, too. They actually have Lobo's current affiliation [First Celestial Church of the Triple Fish God].

From: "Sacreligious amd anti-Christian Comic characters" forum discussion, started 28 February 2007 on official DC Comics website (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000107545&start=0&tstart=15; viewed 19 July 2007):

mavericker
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 12:49 PM

Lets see:
Zauriel
The Spectre
Nightcrawler
Storm
Raven
Supergirl
Venom
Lobo
Zatanna
Scarlet Witch
Juggernaut
Dr. Strange
Dr. Fate
Any character that uses magic, sorcery


alexziq
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 12:58 PM

Is this crap serious? This all depends on what faith you practice. It's conservative braindead and downright dangerous thinking like this that makes more and more people turn on the church...

Good Lord, (sigh)


mrterrific
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 1:19 PM

Sure, I can possibly see why Zauriel, the Spectre, Raven, the magic users and even Storm (since she is sometimes refered to as a godess) could be called sacrilegious. Maybe even Lobo, partly because of his violent nature and partly becuse of his "re-birth" in "52"...


[http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000107545&start=30&tstart=15]

oldfangirl
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 11:20 PM

Comments on Mavericker's list:

...Lobo is a force of chaos incarnate as a Czarnian. Evil, dangerous, deadly, yes. Sacreligious? ...

The actual dictionary definition of sacreligious follows:
From the Oxford dictionary:
Adjective form of Sacrilege
Noun. Robbery or profanation of sacred building.
Outrage on consecrated person or thing.
Violation of what is sacred.

These are fictional characters!!!
Which of them have robbed or profaned a sacred building, committed an act of outrage on a consecrated person (well LOBO Probably) or violated what is sacred?

EVIDENCE PLEASE???

And if you think these characters are sacreligious, why don't you just avoid the books that use them?

Is Elfquest sacreligious because the elves have no organized religion?


[http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000107545&start=90&tstart=15]

mavericker
Posted: Mar 3, 2007 5:49 PM

Lobo is supposedly such a bad apple he was kicked out of both Heaven and Hell, which is why he's immortal. That is sacrilegous.

From: "Possible writers' cliche/prejudice: No well-adjusted athiests/agnostics in the DCU?" forum discussion, started 26 May 2005 on "Comic Bloc" website (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-5064.html; viewed 20 July 2007):

Gentlegamer
June 1st, 2005, 11:33 AM

I suspect your issue is that you don't believe any of the divine forces exist in the real world, hence your seeking "positive" portrayals of atheists. That is, you are taking issue with what seems to be the "side" the DCU takes . . . because you're on the other "side."


The Werle
June 1st, 2005, 11:54 AM

That's exactly it. He has said as much. The DCU is biased [against atheists], and its pretty aggravating...

A character that can serve as a good argument in favor of the idea that the DCU has no true "God" would definitely be Lobo. Through shear stubborness and violence he has guaranteed himself immortality, because whether he goes to Heaven or Hell he can just kick *** and get whatever he wants. What sort of Supreme being is gonna be pushed around like that?

From: "Religion in Comics" forum discussion, started 3 August 2007 on official DC Comics website (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000125054&tstart=0; viewed 6 August 2007):

ericinhouston
Posted: Aug 2, 2007 3:18 PM

I think the chances of such [religious] debates [within DC Universe comics] are pretty slim. I'm not saying that they wouldn't be interesting (they would), but you don't often see much religion or politics in comic books, unless it's some nutcase pseudo-religion (Superman as a Christ figure or Lobo in some fish religion).

And would religion really work as an issue? Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Batman was raised Catholic. Because of his current actions, does that mean that he has turned his back on the church, or does it mean that he has reconciled the two, at least in his own mind? There are a lot of pro-choice people out there claiming to be Catholic. Sometimes your religion doesn't always define your actions, much as it should.


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