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Carter Hall
Hawkman


Carter Hall, the classic DC Comics superhero known as "Hawkman," believes that he is the reincarnation of an ancient Egyptian prince or pharaoh. Hawkman has strong religious beliefs which can best be categorized as Egyptian classical religion, although his beliefs are filtered and modified by his contemporary American frame of reference.

Hawkman is one of the most famous and most recognizable super-heroes in the DC Universe. He has been a core member of both the Justice Society of America and the Justice League of America. Among DC Comics' most famous super-heroes, Hawkman is one of the most overtly religious.

Religious and mystical elements have been regular aspects of stories featuring Hawkman. Although there have been various incarnations of the character, Hawkman has most frequently been portrayed as the most recent manifestation of an ancient soul who truly has been reincarnated numerous times throughout the centuries. Reincarnation and migration of the soul are frequent themes in Hawkman stories. Carter Hall routinely recalls has past lives and uses his the first-hand experience of his soul to assist him in his non-superheroic careers, including museum curator, archaeologist and college history professor.

Hawkman routinely invokes Ra in his speech. Ra is the ancient Egyptian sun god.

Hawkman believes in reincarnation
Above: Hawkman, who believes in reincarnation, mentions his numerous previous lifetimes. From: All Star Comics #2 (1999), written by James Robinson and David Goyer, pencilled by William Rosado; page 27. Reprinted in The Justice Society Returns! trade paperback, DC Comics: New York City (2003), page 235.

Hawkman says homeland is Egypt
Above: Hawkman here expresses his belief that his homeland is Egypt, although Wildcat knows he was born on Long Island, New York. From: Thrilling Comics #1 (1999), written by Chuck Dixon, art by Russ Heath; page 3. Reprinted in The Justice Society Returns! trade paperback, DC Comics: New York City (2003), page 186.

Hawkman's politics

Hawkman is widely known as a political conservative.

From: Matt 'Stars' Morrison, "The Mount: 'I'm Telling You For the Last Time . . .", published in Fanzing #52, January/February 2003 (http://www.fanzing.com/mag/fanzing52/themount.shtml; viewed 22 May 2006):

The other night, some fellow geeks and I got to talking about some political matters in addition to the usual shop talk and this question was raised: what side of the political spectrum do you think most superheroes come down on?

Now, there are a few obvious gimmies. Hawkman is an old-fashioned conservative, with old fashioned taking a whole new meaning with a guy who's been steadily reincarnated since the Egyptian dynasties. Green Arrow? FDR/Kennedy liberal with no party affiliations...

Of course it's easy for second-tier heroes to have a distinct political identity. Many is the time a writer has used a lesser-known character as a mouthpiece for his own opinions. But honestly, how many readers are going to be seriously offended if Green Arrow calls for Richard Nixon's head on a platter or if Hawkman makes comments against single people who live together?

From: Michael Hutchison, "Never Discuss Religion or Politics: A rebuttal to 'The Mount'", published in Fanzing #52, January/February 2003 (http://www.fanzing.com/mag/fanzing52/feature7.shtml; viewed 22 May 2006):
I guess I'm getting away from my point about not being able to judge a superhero's personal politics. Aside from Batman and Green Arrow, I think most superhero politics are nebulous. Yes, even the Silver Age Green Lantern and Hawkman's politics. As I've said before in these pages, these two were chosen as foils for Green Arrow because they both served as members of police forces, which to Denny O'Neill makes them "The Man" against whom the left was rebelling. However, neither seems particularly right-wing beyond a "criminals should be punished" belief system held by most people not in the middle-to-far-left. Hal Jordan's never spoken out against the I.R.S. or the Social Security system, nor has Katar Hol ever said why government-funded daycare is wrong.

Discussion

From: "What Religion is Your Favorite Superhero?" discussion board started 20 April 2006 on official website of DC Comics (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=2000072337&tstart=0; viewed 8 May 2006):
relmurmot
Posted: Apr 20, 2006 9:30 AM

...What is the religion of the heroes we read about?... Don't get me wrong, not picking on anyone, just wonder what everyone thinks what our heroes believe. ...Other threads touch on the subject in passing, time to discuss it!


sumo
Posted: Apr 21, 2006 12:44 PM

Carter Hall: Still worships Ra the sun god of the ancient Egyptians.

From: "Hawkman is not a good Buddhist" discussion board started 16 October 2004 on official website of DC Comics (http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/web/thread.jspa?threadID=60905259&messageID=60906637; viewed 12 May 2006): fuji257
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

Hawkman is not a good Buddhist

Carter talks about his bad karma and reincarnation and nirvanna - but is he really trying to live on the eightfold path? When have you seen Hawkman assume the lotus position?

Since when did ancient Egyptians believe in reincarnation, I thought they believed reanimation (for the kingly types) only?

Hawkman writers seem to have Indian and Asian Buddhist concepts mixed up with Egyption ones.

I think this really needs fixed, more and more people are looking into Buddhism (and early Egypts beliefs) these days.


cigarettelad
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

Ancient Egyptians reasoned that the soul transmigrated from body to body.

They believed it was possible, at least for a privileged few, to choose what life form they wished to reside in after death.


fuji257
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

I believe you are mistaken.

Egyptians believed in reanimation NOT transmigration or reincarnation.

Why do you think they were mummified? They thought that one day their souls would reclaim their original (mummified) bodies. This is why they went to so much trouble to preserve them.


fuji257
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

OK, I checked some web sites on Egyptian beliefs.

They preserved the body because they thought that as long as the body was physically OK, the soul would be too. If the body/mummy was destroyed the soul would be as well.

This does NOT fit in with Carter's story. Hawkman mentions KARMA frequently. That is not Egyptian theology. He also mentions Nirvana; again, not Egyptian theology.


justin00gray
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

The evolution of consciousness is symbolized by the Solar Barque moving through the Duat. In this context the "hours" of travel represent stages of development. Bika Reed states that at a certain "hour" the individual meets the "Rebel in the Soul," (2) that is, at the "hour of spiritual transformation." And translating from the scroll Reed gives: "the soul warns, only if a man is allowed to continue evolving, can the intellect reach the heart."

One text recently translated as part of a doctoral thesis by Leonard H. Lesko is entitled The Ancient Egyptian Book of Two Ways. Not only does this scripture deal with rituals assumed to apply to after-death conditions -- in some respects similar to the Book of the Dead -- but also it seems quite patently a ritual connected with initiation from one level of self-becoming to another. Lesko regards his work as a pioneering effort. He found his difficulty in translating and interpreting the texts compounded by the inclusion of "earlier material which often degenerated through the errors of copyists" (p. 3). Nevertheless the picture that emerges is that of the "deceased" or candidate for initiation reaching a fork offering two paths called "The Two Paths of Liberation" and, while each may take the neophyte to the abode of the Akhu (the "Blessed" -- a name for the gods, and also for the successful initiates -- they involve different experiences. One path, passing over land and water, is that of Osiris or cyclic nature and involves many incarnations. The other way leads through fire in a direct or shortened passage along the route of Horus who in many texts symbolizes the divine spark in the heart.

In the Corpus Hermeticum,* Thoth -- Tehuti -- was the Mind of the Deity, whom the Alexandrian Greeks identified with Hermes. For example, one of the chief books in the Hermetica is the Poimandres treatise, or Pymander. The early trinity Atum-Ptah-Thoth was rendered into Greek as theos (god) -- demiourgos or demourgos-nous (Demiurge or Demiurgic Mind) -- nous and logos (Mind and Word). The text states that Thoth, after planning and engineering the kosmos, unites himself with the Demiurgic Mind. There are other expressions proving that the Poimandres text is a Hellenized version of Egyptian doctrine. An important concept therein is that of "making-new-again." The treatise claims that all animal and vegetable forms contain in themselves "the seed of again-becoming" -- a clear reference to reimbodiment -- "every birth of flesh ensouled . . . shall of necessity renew itself." G. R. S. Mead interprets this as palingenesis or reincarnation -- "the renewal on the karmic wheel of birth-and-death." (Thrice-Greatest Hermes, 1: 94; 2:55.)

- Justin Gray


fuji257
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

Wow!

I guess it depends on how reincarnation is defined.

I stand corrected on Karma not being an egyptian theology. Its interesting that there is shared ground between Hindu and Egyptian thought. However, even checking the sources you site I can't find any references to Nirvana. You seem to have greater knowledge than I concerning Egypt. I suppose you should!

In Hawkman #18 page 2:

"In this world its the closest I will ever get to Nirvana." - - Hawkman

This is the only reference to Nirvana in the current series I could find quickly.

I only understand Nirvana in Zen/Buddhist terms and was trying to fit in the concepts on Carter's history and current life. The Zen/Buddhist perspective on Nirvana does not fit in, at all.

I will do some more research and see if I can find anything on Egyptian Nirvana (if there is such a thing) and see if it differs.

Keep up the awesome work!


phantomstranger
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

I was under the impression that Nth metal was the cause of all this. And the Hawks have lived numerious lives as numerious races. And, no doubt, they followed numerious beliefs, or not, during those times. The Hawks may have started out as Egyptian but they've been everything else as well.

Re: "In Hawkman #18 page 2: 'In this world its the closest I will ever get to Nirvana.'"

Couldn't that have just been an expression that fit the moment without any religious overtones?


fuji257
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

re: "Couldn't that have just been an expression that fit the moment without any religious overtones?"

No. Only if "Nirvana" means something else in Egyptian terms.

Nirvana is "the ultimate truth"/a state of mind or something one OBSERVES while alive. It is not a place. It is not an afterlife or realm in any way.

The statement in question implies Carter would like to attain Nirvana. To do so implies following a Zen or Buddhist realated path. Again unless Nirvana has some other meaning in Egyptian terms.


fuji257
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

I knew I wasn't crazy.

In issue #28 page 14:

Carter: "Reincarnation is the belief that an individual human soul passes through a succession of lives bound by karma. The ultimate objective is to break the cycle."

That is definitely Hindu (Some Buddhist believe that too), not sure about Egyptian.

Carter: "According to the Vedic teachings of Buddhism, whatever happens in our lives is subject to cause and effect."

Carter himself says its Buddhist. VEDIC BUDDHISM? There is just no such thing. The Vedas are Hindu. Buddha REJECTED Hinduism. The Vedas DO NOT teach any sort of Buddhism. Carter being an archeologist, man of the world and college educated all three would know this (not to mention lived x # of lives).

Carter: "Chance doesn't exist. Everything is part of a higher cause/effect structure and by our observing our own Karma, we can change our destiny. At some point in each life I must have made a crucial mistake, something that prevents me from breaking the cycle."

In Buddhism the Wheel of Rebirth can be broken. It is broken by achieving Nirvana. The Buddhist way of doing so involves observing or being mindful of your thoughts and also involves meditation and a lifestyle called the noble eight fold path (there is really a lot more to it, but I'm trying to keep it basic)

I'm not trying to beat a dead horse. Its just I'm new to Hawkman and when I purchased a new issue, the idea of a reincarnated hero really intrigued me. I knew for some reason I thought Hawkman was a Buddhist. Issue #28 was my first exposure to him. I bought it first because I figured it would be a good starting point because the cover announced "New Team New Direction". I liked it so well I immediately bought a trade paperback and a dozen back issues. Only to discover all this "Egyptian stuff".

If you read #28 again and can imagine having no prior Hawkman knowledge and knowledge of Buddhism, you'll see where I'm coming from.

Now I realize its minor errors in Carter's dialog. No biggie, its a great series.


justin00gray
Posted: Oct 16, 2004 5:00 PM

Light from Ancient Egypt
By I. M. Oderberg

The ancient Egyptians conceived man and kosmos to be dual: firstly, the High God or Divine Mind arose out of the Primeval Waters of space at the beginning of manifestation*; secondly, the material aspect expressing what is in the Divine Mind must be in a process of ever-becoming. In other words, the kosmos consists of body and soul. Man emanated in the image of divinity is similarly dual and his evolutionary goal is a fully conscious return to the Divine Mind.

*Space, symbolized by the Primeval Waters, contains the seeds and possibilities of all living things in their quiescent state. At the right moment for awakenment, all will take up forms in accordance with inherent qualities. Or to express it in another way: the Word uttered by the Divine Mind calls manifested life to begin once more.

Growth is effected through a succession of lives, a concept that is found in texts and implied in symbolism. Herodotus, the Greek historian (5th century B.C.), wrote that the Egyptians were the first to teach that the human soul is immortal, and at the death of the body enters into some other living thing then coming to birth; and after passing through all creatures of land, sea, and air (which cycle it completes in three thousand years) it enters once more into a human body, at birth.

The theory of reincarnation is often ascribed to Pythagoras, since he spent some time in Egypt studying its philosophy and, according to Herodotus (bk. ii, and #167; 123), "adopted this opinion as if it were his own."

Dr. Margaret A. Murray, who worked with Professor Flinders Petrie, illustrates the Egyptian belief by referring to the ka-names* of three kings; the first two of the twelfth dynasty: that of Amonemhat I means "He who repeats births," Senusert I: "He whose births live," and the ka-name of Setekhy I of the nineteenth dynasty was "Repeater of births." (The Splendour That Was Egypt, 1949; p. 211)

*The ka-name relates to the vital essence of an individual.

Reincarnation has been connected with the rites of Osiris, one of the Mysteries or cycles of initiation perpetuated in Egypt. The concept of transformation as recorded in the Egyptian texts has been interpreted in various ways. De Briere expresses it in astronomical terms: "The sensitive soul re-entered by the gate of the gods, or the Capricorn, into the Amenthe, the watery heavens, where it dwelt always with pleasure; until, descending by the gate of men, or the Cancer, it came to animate a new body." (1)

Herodotus writes of transmigration, i.e., that the soul passes through various animals before being reborn in human form. This refers not to the human soul but to the molecules, atoms, and other components that clothe it. They gravitate to vehicles similar in qualities to their former host's, drawn magnetically to the new milieu by the imprint made by the human soul, whether it be fine or gross. It is quite clear from the Book of the Dead and other texts that the soul itself after death undergoes experiences in the Duat (Dwat) or Underworld, the realm and condition between heaven and earth, or beneath the earth, supposedly traversed by the sun from sunset to sunrise.

Of course some of that falls more toward resurrection than reincarnation, but it's fun to discuss.
bignappi
Posted: Oct 17, 2004 5:00 PM

Hawkman is a Mormon.


suesmyth
Posted: Oct 18, 2004 5:00 PM

I don't imagine Carter subscribing to any religion. I think he believes in a higher power, but leaves it at that.


maxpower_1
Posted: Oct 18, 2004 5:00 PM

Just a few issues ago, Carter said that he was a priest in a former life. He even made Holy Water!

Doesn't sound like an Atheist to me.


gatharion
Posted: Oct 18, 2004 5:00 PM

Well despite his Egyptian origins it sort of makes sense for Carter to believe that he reincarnates, because he kind of does...

It also makes sense for him use all sorts of terms and have a sort of universal outlook since he has lived everywhere on the globe over the last four thousand years.


captain_marvel
Posted: Nov 11, 2004 4:00 PM

re: "Hawkman is not a good Buddhist."

Which is a good thing, since he's not actually a Buddhist. He worships Ra.


me_am_good
Posted: Nov 11, 2004 4:00 PM

Back when Johns was writing it (I think), Carter mentioned how wanted to see some kind of afterlife but he can't because he's damned to reincarnation.

Carter seems to be an extremely spiritual guy who believes in some kind of higher power, but he isn't just a Christian or Jew or whatever. He's some sort of amalgam, he thinks most if not all religions are rooted in some kind truth... sort of like in Kingdom Come when Deadman is talking about a higher power that exists, but it's different things to different people.

From: "Superman Wedding -- why a Christian ceremony?" newsgroup discussion started 11 October 1996 in rec.arts.comics.dc.universe (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.dc.universe/browse_thread/thread/4d17a1ff0ee9c715/d141c36005b90ea4; viewed 5 June 2006):
From: Jon Ingersoll
Date: Wed, Oct 23 1996 12:00 am
Email: Jonathan.Ingers...@yale.edu

re: "Just out of curiosity, is there any major character in the DC Universe definitely shown as being Jewish?"

For that matter, what characters have been portrayed as having any definite religion?

...Some others are, I would guess not followers of any religion found on our Earth. I'm thinking of any alien who came here after childhood like J'onn J'onzz, the pre-Crisis Hawkman, Starfire, etc. This also would apply to Aquaman depending on what his current continuity says about when he left Atlantis.

From "TS: Liberality For All vs. DMZ" discussion page started 30 November 2005 (http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=6419391; viewed 13 June 2006):
Huk-L (handsomishbo...), November 30th, 2005

Now I don't think that titles such as "Liberality for all" are the way to go either as its viewpoint is so extreme that it can, based on your perspective, be considered as either fanatical or subtly making fun of consrvative themselves. However I do belive that a center right superhero... would appeal to a large percentage of Americans who may either purchase very few or no comics at all.


Mark C (elmarkc...), November 30th, 2005

Hawkman = conservative. Green Arrow tells him so every time they meet.

From: "Any Christian Superheroes?" thread began 22 April 2004 on rec.arts.comics.dc.universe newsgroup (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.dc.universe/browse_thread/thread/4e5839f075fecf76/394c4ad930a0e68c; viewed 20 June 2006):
From: Gustavo Wombat
Date: Thurs, Apr 22 2004 12:03 pm

I can't think of any major superheroes that strongly believe in any real faith, and that surprises me. Certainly not in the DC Universe. I think there are more minority superheroes than religious ones...


From: AJSolis
Date: Fri, Apr 23 2004 2:12 am

...Is Hawkman still a follower of the Egyptian gods?

From: "Where are the Christian Superheroes?" forum discussion page started 22 August 2006 on Newsarama website (http://forum.newsarama.com/archive/index.php/t-81451.html; viewed 5 May 2007):

Mr Wesley
08-22-2006, 10:03 AM

...I pose the question to you, my fellow Talk@Ramanians: If Christianity is the most popular faith in the United States, why aren't there more openly Christian superheroes?


spiderrob8
08-22-2006, 01:51 PM

As they say, you don't discuss religion or politics. Except if you are Green Arrow... I just think it could be cool, like how Green Arrow is more liberal, and Hawkman more conservative, and yet it doesn't offend me.

From: "What religion do superhero's belong to? [sic]" forum discussion started 18 July 2002 on "Toon Zone" website (http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=41332; viewed 21 May 2007):

07-18-2002, 01:02 PM
wonderfly

What religion do superhero's [sic] belong to?

I'd like to discuss what religious beliefs are favorite costumed hero's belong to. Everyone knows Daredevil is Catholic. But beyond that, what do we know of superhero's beliefs? I'm thinking of mostly the Marvel Universe, but you DC fans feel free to contribute as well...


07-18-2002, 04:03 PM
Ed Liu

...for all we know, Superman has converted to some Kryptonian faith.

Speaking of aliens, J'onn J'onzz of the Justice League has mentioned at least two Martian gods, and the Thanagarian Hawkman and Hawkgirl/woman both believed in gods of Thanagar.

From: "Superhero Religious Views?" forum discussion, started 9 June 2007 on Newsarama website (http://forum.newsarama.com/archive/index.php/t-116001.html; viewed 13 July 2007):

hippyhunter
06-13-2007, 01:43 AM

I hate it when people say that Batman is an atheist. The man has encountered the Spectre, the Spirit of Vengeance of the Christian god. Worked with the champion of the Greek Gods. Hawkman and Black Adam are involved with the Egyptian gods. Batman believes in the fact that there are gods, he just most likely doesn't WORSHIP a deity. Big difference...

From: "Increasing comic circulation through different perspectives" forum discussion, started 30 November 2005 on "Comic Bloc" website (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-15542.html; viewed 20 July 2007):

Mark Matthewman
November 30th, 2005, 03:34 AM

In the last few days, since the thread on "Liberality for all" I have been pondering a number of seperate, yet to me, related issues affecting the comic industry in the USA. Among these are the long term trend of declining sales among mainstream comics, the ideologicall monopoly that liberals hold on the comics industry on the creative side, and the severe lack of credible, and more to the point admirable comics characters with a more conservative outlook. While I don't subscribe to the idea of a "vast leftwing conspiracy" in comics it is impossible to deny that most of those involved in the business of comics on the creative side are firmly and proudly liberal, and that while for the most part, politics comes up only tangentially in comics most Superheroes do seem to be of a liberal mindset.

I think that in the interest of honesty, we must at least examine the idea that perhaps the overwhelming presence of more liberal creators, when contrasted with the fact that the majority of Americans fall slightly more to the right of the political spectrum than left may be in some way related to the long term trend of declining sales... So could the creation or emphasis of charcters as conservatives, open the industry to new readers?


ConnorFan
November 30th, 2005, 08:17 AM

There are two examples that spring to my mind when I started reading this thread. Green Arrow under Chuck Dixon and Hawkman.

...Hawkman and his title have definite conservative leanings. Hawkman is a believer in captial punishment, in pulling one's self up by the boot straps, etc. He has been portrayed for years having conservative leanings but I dont think the book has really ever had a strong conservative following.

I'm not sure that politics really play a crucial role in comics, occassionally we see politcal debate, but by and large I dont think its a rallying point for either conservatives or liberals. I dont think that it really affects that many people, when they are deciding to buy comics or not. I think costume origin powers writer and artist are much bigger factors and political persuasion is an after thought...

From: "Barry Allen is Jewish?" forum discussion, started 13 May 2005 on "Comic Bloc" website (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-4308.html; viewed 20 July 2007):

Icefan
May 15th, 2005, 10:32 AM

I can understand those concerns somewhat. I have no desire to see Jack Chick writing Superman. :) But I can see that the addition of faith (or the lack there of) could be useful for adding dimension to an otherwise flat character. I'm sure that turning Green Arrow in to a left-wing ideologue alienated a few people, but it succeeded in making the character more than "Batman with a bow". I think that fully fleshed out characters add more to the sense of "realism" in comics than the snuff material that a lot of people attribute as doing so. I'll take positive portrayals of beliefs I don't personally believe in over graphic depictions of rape, murder and mutilation any day.


crawfordcrow
May 15th, 2005, 11:14 AM

You make a very good point with Green Arrow, but the political overtones tend to get handled more evenly (for instance, Hawkman is Ollie's eternal counterpoint, just as Hawk is Dove's) and most of the disagreements are played out plainly on the page, without a subtextual feeling of condemnation for either side. ...Usually, there are exceptions even there, of course.


SmashOgre
May 21st, 2005, 08:05 AM

You know, I don't like too much overly obvious religious references in my comics nor do I like political ones because I read comics as an escape. But I do appreciate appropriate mentions...

...I also liked the line in Manhunter where Hawkman swears to tell the truth by the "pantheon I believe in". That just made a lot of sense in terms of the character...

From: "Question for other atheists" forum discussion, started 6 March 2006 on "Comic Boards" website (http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/view.php?trd=060306051129; viewed 23 July 2007):

[http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/view.php?rpl=060306142026]

Posted by Hellstone on Monday, March 06 2006 at 14:20:26 GMT

re: "As noted in other discussions over the years they seem to bend over backwards to NOT assign denominations or faith statements to characters..."

Well, I think that goes for the "big 3" [Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman], for example. But many denizens of the DCU have expressed their religion explicitly, and I'm not just talking Wonder Woman and Kobra and Zauriel here... many more, have all stated their explicit beliefs...


[http://www.comicboards.com/dcb/view.php?rpl=060306150825]

Posted by Icon on Monday, March 06 2006 at 15:08:25 GMT

Many of those have their beliefs tied up in their powers or character. I'd have a much harder time saying what denomination (or absence of same) some of the more generically-themed characters are, like: Robin, Argent, Impulse..., Steel, Wonder Girl..., Joto, Hawkman (presumably Egyptian pantheon, but what if he was raised in another faith before recovering his memories), Metamorpho, Captain Boomerang (Senior and Junior), and the like...

From: "Need Help With A Research Project" forum discussion, started 9 December 2005 on the "Comic Bloc" website (http://www.comicbloc.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-16070.html; viewed 6 August 2007):

Researcher
December 9th, 2005, 02:29 PM

Hello!

I'm a Teaching Assistant at a major college and I am doing some research for a book being written by the professor I work for with the working title Modern Morality Plays: The Religion of Comics.

Essentially, the book will discuss how comics have become the primary form or morality storytelling much in the way that Bible studies were in the past.

One of my students suggested I come here and ask a few questions, as this forum is reportedly quite active.

If you wish to participate, please provide the following:
Age
Gender
Religious Affiliation

And answer the following questions:
1. Do you feel that comics reflect your moral values?
2. What are the primary moral values reflected in comics?
3. Do you feel that comics reflect any religious philosophy in particular?

I'll probably have more questions later, but this should get us started.


Highball
December 9th, 2005, 03:53 PM

28
Male
Egyptian Orthodox(Christian)

...3. Yes. With the presence of the Spectre and Zauriel it reflects the Christian, Jewish, or Muslim beliefs of heaven, hell, angels, demons, etc (though I can't recall if those related characters ever actually state specifically Christianity). Plus we've seen characters go to church (the one that currently springs to mind is Mr. Terrific and Doc Midnight at the end of the Hal/Spectre story in JSA).

Then there's the defunct ancient beliefs like Greek gods in Wonder Woman, ancient Egyptian reincarnation in Hawkman, Norse gods from Thor, and then made for comics gods like The New Gods.


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