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From: "X-Men religious affiliations" thread started 1 June 2002 on rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks newsgroup (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks/browse_thread/thread/78e6830d00083d2f/102a03cd2dab9fda; viewed 13 June 2006):
From: Chris Dodson
Date: Sat, Jun 1 2002 9:38 pm
I'm looking for information on the religious beliefs of all the current X-Men for a story I'm submitting to Marvel. The only one I know for sure is Nightcrawler (Catholic). I get the impression that Wolverine is an atheist or agnostic, but I have no in-comic evidence to support this. Any help you guys could give me would be greatly appreciated. Also, in your responses, could you provide titles and issue numbers of the comics in which the information is stated? Thanks.
From: The Question
Date: Mon, Jun 3 2002 5:17 am
I don't think there's any definite statement about Gateway, but it could be easily assumed he essentially believes in the Dreamtime (if you care to make broad generalisations based on faith and race, which we know Marvel would never do).
From: Patrick McClue
Date: Mon, Jun 3 2002 8:52 am
And now that we know that Gateway is Bishop's grandfather, maybe Bishop will follow that path.
From: "Top Ten Most Stereotypical Mutant Characters Ever!!" forum discussion started 29 August 2006 on "Comic Book Resources" website (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-141418.html; viewed 25 May 2007):
08-29-2006, 06:02 PM
Someone said he should be on here, and lordy is he EVER! A mystical aborigine, who lives in the desert, swings his talisman, and doesn't talk! Although he strangely does in an issue of Marvel Comics Presents, but who's counting?
Gateway fits the role of the stereotypical, omniscient shaman character. No development. No character. But he makes Longshot fall apart, knows exactly where the X-Men need to be teleported to without any knowledge of them, and has his mystical fire and mystical talisman on a mystical rock in the middle of the mystical Outback desert.
Where was Magik when you needed her? Or -- *choke* -- Lila Cheney?
There's something to be said about Gateway, though. He did make the Outback Era of the X-Men a memorable one, but you can't work through the stereotype of it all. You really just cannot.
08-29-2006, 06:09 PM
The question to be asked is the difference between a stereotype and an archetype.
I think Gateway clearly qualifies as the latter.
08-29-2006, 06:12 PM
I agree with all of your previous ones, but I don't find anything stereotypical about a shaman who is omniscient, spirits people into the Dreamtime to give advice and communicate, can teleport people, and doesn't talk. He doesn't have a mystical talisman to create teleportation portals. He spins a bull-roarer. Gateway is a shamanistic character, but he can't be one if he doesn't have a shamanistic role. He plays the shaman role, but one can't tell that he's a shaman by teleporting people and sitting on a rock by a fire and not talking. I've never heard of a real life shaman who teleports people. And he might be stereotypical when it comes to being an Australian aborigine because he after all is the chief of a (missing) tribe. If he was a bit of a maverick, then it wouldn't make much sense. Gateway's character and development was subtle and rare at first, but I suspect it would have been explored without messing with the character had Cla-... I'm not going to go off on this tangent.
08-29-2006, 09:43 PM
...I have to say, Bishop's Aboriginal heritage annoys me. There seems to be this belief amongst American artists that Aboriginal and African men look the same. The same problem occurred with Talisman in Contest of Champions. One of the things I appreciated about Gateway is that he actually looks Aboriginal...
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