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34,420 citations from literature (mostly science fiction and fantasy) referring to real churches, religious groups, tribes, etc. [This database is for literary research only. It is not intended as a source of information about religion.]

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Socrates world -340 B.C.E. de Camp, L. Sprague. "Aristotle and the Gun " in Modern Classics of Science Fiction. (Gardner Dozois, ed.) New York: St. Martin's Press (1991; story c. 1956); pg. 43. "'People have met with misfortune by trying to suddenly to change the ideas of those around them. Like you teacher's teacher, Sokrates.' "
Socrates world -105 B.C.E. Leiber, Fritz. "Adept's Gambit " in Swords in the Mist in The Three of Swords. Garden City, NY: Nelson Doubleday (1973; c. 1947); pg. 438. Pg. 438: "'...Thirdly, you must get the cup from which Socrates drank the hemlock...' "; Pg. 451: "Then Fafhrd handed him Socrates cup... " [More, pg. 456.]
Socrates world 1930 Stapledon, Olaf. Last and First Men. Los Angeles: Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc. (1988; first published 1930); pg. 1. "The first, and some would say the greatest, achievement of your own 'Western' culture was the conceiving of two ideals of conduct, both essential to the spirit's well-being. Socrates, delighting in the truth for its own sake and not merely for practical ends, glorified unbiased thinking, honesty of mind and speech. Jesus, delighting in the actual human persons around him, and in the flavour of divinity which, for him, pervaded the world, stood for unselfish love of neighbours and of God. Socrates woke to the ideal of dispassionate intelligence, Jesus to the ideal of passionate yet self-oblivious worhship. Socrates urged intellectual integrity, Jesus integrity of will. Each, of course, though starting with a different emphasis, involved the other. " [Other refs. not in DB.]
Socrates world 1975 Shea, Robert & Robert Anton Wilson. Illuminatus, Vol. III: Leviathan. New York: Dell (1975); pg. 143. "'...The goose can break the bottle at any second. Socrates took the hemlock to prove it...' "
Socrates world 1987 Kress, Nancy. "Cannibals " in The Aliens of Earth. Sauk City, Wisconsin: Arkham House Publishers (1993; 1st pub Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine, May 1987); pg. 74. "'Art shows us to ourselves, and until we look, we don't know what we are. Not fully. We don't see our own greatness, or our own guilt. The artist--from Genesis on-- has taken on that burden of human guilt nobody else can yet bear to assume, in order to make it assumable. Socrates, Christ, Sakharov, Pollidena--the performing artist has held a mirror to our guilt...' "
Socrates world 1996 Feeley, Gregory. "The Crab Lice " in Alternate Tyrants (Mike Resnick, ed.) New York: Tor (1997); pg. 306. "...raising successive objections, which Aristophanes must rebut in the manner of Socrates, drawing out each questioner... " [Many refs. throughout the story, not in DB.]
Socrates world 1998 Disch, Thomas M. The Dreams Our Stuff Is Made Of: How Science Fiction Conquered the World. New York: Simon & Schuster (2000; c. 1998); pg. 30. "Other Afrocentrists claim that Aristotle stole his philosophy books in the Library of Alexandria (a city that did not exist in his lifetime); that Socrates and Cleopatra were black (a fact of which their many detractors made not mention). Commenting on these mattes in the New York Review of Books, Jasper Griffin says: 'These assertions and the persistence with which they are made in the face of refutation form a fascinating study in morbid collective psychology...' "
Socrates world 2000 Barad, Judith & Ed Robertson The Ethics of Star Trek. New York: HarperCollins (2000) [Non-fiction. Page numbers from book's index.] Pg. 29-34, 36, 43-51, 53-57, 61-62, 66-67, 69-71, 76, 78, 151, 171, 173-74, 210, 305n, 350
Socrates world 2004 Dick, Philip K. The Zap Gun. New York: Bluejay Books (1985; c. 1965); pg. 73. -
Socrates world 2008 Carter, Raphael. "Congenital Agenesis of Gender Ideation by K. N Sirsi and Sandra Botkin " in Starlight 2 (Patrick Nielsen Hayden, ed.). New York: Tor (1998); pg. 91. "'What we call learning is really remmebering,' Socrates says in the Phaedo; for ou ideas, in their abstract perfection, could not be formed by observation of this sloppy and imperfect world. "
Socrates world 2020 Maggin, Elliot S. Kingdom Come. New York: Time Warner (1998); pg. 231. [Wonder Woman speaking.] "'What principles, Kal? I've got principles. I've got a hundred thousand years of heritage and philosophy. For Olympus' sake, Kal, my people invented philosophy. Did you know an ancestor of mine was Socrates' teacher? And another was the mistress of Alexander the Great?' "
Socrates world 2030 Hogan, James P. Entoverse. New York: Ballantine (1991); pg. 169. "He particularly detested the general adulation accorded to the 'practical.' Aristophanes had ridiculed Socrates, and Blake had hated Newton for the same reason. "
Socrates world 2040 Clarke, Arthur C. Childhood's End. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World (1981; c. 1953); pg. 156. "Plato would have approved of him as an example of the philosopher-statesman, though Sen did not altogether approve of Plato, whom he suspected of grossly misrepresenting Socrates. "
Socrates world 2100 Anderson, Poul. The Boat of a Million Years. New York: Tor (1989); pg. 421. [Year is uncertain.] "Siddhartha, Socrates, Hillel, Christ--Aeschylus, Vergil, Tu Fu, Firdousi, Shakespeare, Goeth, Mark Twain--Lucretius, Avicenna, Maimonides, Descartes, Pascal, Hume--Pericles, Alfred, Jefferson--Hatshepusut... "
Socrates world 2114 Dick, Philip K. The Man Who Japed. New York: Ace Books (1956); pg. 146. "The two teeth engaged in Socratic dialogue... "
Socrates world 2166 Farmer, Philip Jose. "Riders of the Purple Wage " in The Hugo Winners: Volumes One and Two. (Isaac Asimov, ed.) Garden City, NY: Nelson Doubleday (1971; story copyright 1967); pg. 619. "Socrates, Ben Johnson, Cellini, Swedenborg, Li Po, and Hiawatha are roistering in the Mermaid Tavern. "
Socrates world 2300 Stapledon, Olaf. Last and First Men. Los Angeles: Jeremy P. Tarcher, Inc. (1988; first published 1930); pg. 71. [Year is estimated.] "Under these circumstances it was natural that there should exist... certain secret cults which sought escape from harsh reality into worlds of fantasy. Of these illicit sects, two were most widespread... The [2nd] great heresy was derive partly from the energy of repressed intellective impulses, and was practised by persons... who... shared the universal paucity of intelligence. These pathetic devotees of intellect were inspired by Socrates. The great primitive had insisted that clear thought is impossible without clear definition of terms... had been settled once for all by Socrates and his immediate followers. Therefore, accepting these as true, and grossly misunderstanding them, the ultimate Socratics undertook to define all the prcoesses of the world state and the ritual of the established religion... they believed that they emancipated themselves from the philistinism of their age, and secured comradeship with Socrates in the hereafter. "
Socrates world 3418 Panshin, Alexei. Star Well. New York: Ace Books (1978; c. 1968); pg. 78. "If you will remember, Socrates was condemned to death for corrupting the youth of Athens. He never did. The parents simply didn't know what time it was and needed someone to blame things on. "
Somali Africa 1987 Bishop, Michael. No Enemy But Time. New York: Timescape (1982); pg. 306. "Of course, the true measure of seasonality in equatorial regions is not temperature but rainfall. The Somalis call the rainy period from march through May gu, and that from September to late November dayr, but if you believe that the precipitation during these periods never slackens, your brain has absorbed a crucial portion of the rainfall intended for the Somalis. "
Somali India: Aden 1872 Verne, Jules. Around the World in Eighty Days. Translated by George M. Towle. New York: Bantam (1988; c. 1873); pg. 30. "...went ashore to Aden... sauntered about among the mixed population of Somanlis, Banyans, Parsees, Jews, Arabs, and Europeans who comprised the twenty-five thousand inhabitants of Aden. "
Somali Somalia 2008 McDonald, Ian. Evolution's Shore. New York: Bantam (1997; c. 1995); pg. 40. Pg. 40: "...Jake Aarons, SkyNet's chief East African correspondent... Please note that video evidence to the contrary, he does in fact exist from the waist down. Apparently there is a cute little Somali boy who can personally testify to this same fact, but one shouldn't repeat office bitchery. "; Pg. 51: "'They think they can buy a cheap Somali fake knocked up yesterday in a sweatshop in Mogadishu, stuff it full of hundred-shilling notes, or diamonds, or cocaine, and Haran will eat out of their hands..' "; Pg. 102: "She had the height and grace of a Somali or a Masai, but she was a woman of no tribe, which to an African is to be stateless, homeless, rootless. "; Pg. 226: "'...But not a Rwandan-style tribal slaughter fest. nor even Somali warlordism...' " [Other refs., not in DB., e.g., pg. 127-128, 218.]
Somali world 1890 Farmer, Philip Jose. To Your Scattered Bodies Go. New York: Berkeley Medallion Books (1971); pg. 15. "'...When did you die?'

'It must have been in 1890 A.D.,' Burton said... He ran his tongue around his mouth; the back teeth he had lost when the Somali spear ran through his cheeks were now replaced. "; Pg. 8: "The same long deep scars, witnesses of the Somali javelin which pierced his jaws in that fight at Berbera... "

Songhai Mali 2022 Sterling, Bruce. Islands in the Net. New York: Arbor House/William Morrow (1988); pg. 310. "'...the images of a desolate wasteland. But the Sahel was once the home of Africa's strongest, most prosperous states. The Songhai empire, the empires of Mali and Ghana, the holy city of Timbuktu with its scholars and libraries...' "
Songhai Niger 2010 Bell, M. Shayne. "Dry Niger " in Bright Angels & Familiars. (Eugene England, ed.) Salt Lake City, UT: Signature Books (1992; story c. 1990); pg. 278. "We passed four Tuareg women in the streets of Sinder. One looked like the woman in my dreams, then I thought all four did, then I thought ever woman I saw--Songhai, Hausa, Fulani, Tuareg--all looked like that woman. "
Songhai Niger 2022 Sterling, Bruce. Islands in the Net. New York: Arbor House/William Morrow (1988); pg. 309. "'...We gladly shelter any ethnic group in need--Bambara, Marka, Songhai...''
Songhai USA 2077 Anthony, Piers. God of Tarot. New York: Berkley (1982; c. 1977); pg. 48. "He encountered one strong tribe named Sonhoy whose roots were in tenth-century Black Africa. Their location, with ironic appropriateness, was in the badlands of black craters formed by savagely rapid and deep strip mining for coal. Once there had been enough coal in America to power the world for centuries; no more. "
Sonrai Niger 2022 Sterling, Bruce. Islands in the Net. New York: Arbor House/William Morrow (1988); pg. 288. "'Were you stationed in Mali?'

'Niger actually, but that's a formality only. No central authority. It's tribal warlords mostly, in the outback. Fulani Tribal Front, the Sonrai Fraternal Forces, all kinds of bandit armies, thieves, militias. The desert crawls with them...' "

Sotho South Africa 1997 Resnick, Laura. "Amandla! " in Alternate Tyrants (Mike Resnick, ed.) New York: Tor (1997); pg. 103. "I turned my back on the past, on tribalism, on the fight between black and white, on the fight between Xhosa, Zulu, Tswana, Sotho, Shangaan, Ndebele, and Venda. "
Southern Baptist Convention Alabama 2050 Bova, Ben. "Acts of God " in Sam Gunn Forever. New York: Avon (1998; c. 1995); pg. 14. "It was a bonanza for lawyers. People everywhere started suing God--or the nearest religious establishment... Ford Motor Company sued the Southern Baptists because a ship carrying electronic parts from Korea sank in a typhoon and stopped Ford's assembly operation in Alabama. "
Southern Baptist Convention Arkansas 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 105. "'But Brothers and sisters, let me remind you of one thing. Let me remind you of one thing this morning if I may. God created the Devil too! The Hefn are part of God' creation--just like Satan is a part of God's creation! And I believe just as surely as I'm standing here before you today, that the Hefn are part of God's plan--just like Satan is part of God's plan. Just exactly like Satan is part of God's plan for human beings on this earth.

'And I would ask you to consider two questions, brothers and sisters. I would ask you to prayerfully consider two very, very important questions. The first question is this: What are they here for? Think about it, my good brothers and sisters in Christ. What are they here for? What message was God sending to you and me when he send the Hefn down to earth?

'And the second question I want to lay on your hearts this morning is this: What are God's people going to do about it?' "

Southern Baptist Convention Arkansas 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 105-106. "'Don't judge us by him,' Pam told Liam late that afternoon. 'You saw how everybody acted--Mom and Dad both furious, Pastor Seidler apologizing all over the place, people coming up and saying it was an outrage . . . I can't imagine how the guy got invited to speak here. He must be a little cracked. He's a deep-south Southern Baptist, anyway; a lot of them are still pretty racist.'

'Right. I get it. One Baptist's Hefn is another Baptist's gook.'

'Oh, for Pet's sake,' said Pam disgustedly.

'And Brother Otie Bemis is nothing but a bush-league Grand Dragon Brother Gus Griner.'

Pam made a face. 'You could be right about that, anyway.' "

Southern Baptist Convention Colorado 1982 Bishop, Michael. The Secret Ascension; or, Philip K. Dick is Dead, Alas. New York: Tor (1987); pg. 77. "Aloud, he said, ' 'Philip K. Dick is dead, alas. / Let's all queue up to kick God's ass.' '

...'Go on.'

'That's it. That's the whole thing.'

'First line's okay, but the second's contemptible. Irreverent for the sake of irreverence. Which is crap typical of teenagers or maladjusted adults.'

'That's a psychological interpretation.'

'What did you want?'

'How about an unbiased aesthetic judgment?'

'There's not such animal, Cal.'

'A decade in Colorado couldn't completely wipe out your uptight Southern Baptist biases, could it?'

'What you'll never figure out, Pickford, is that I'm not upset because your stupid 'kick God's ass' line rubs me wrong. I'm upset because it demeans you.'...

'But you give me a psychological judgment instead of a literary one. A judgment tainted by small-town religiosity.' "

Southern Baptist Convention galaxy 4000 Harrison, Harry. Bill, the Galactic Hero. New York: Avon (1975; c. 1965); pg. 25. [The character named 'Reverend' is used by the author to satirize Southern Baptists.] "'...I'm the Reverend Fuse Tender Sixth Class Tembo... since we're shipmates, Bill, please call me Tembo, and how is the condition of your soul?'

'I haven't had much chance to think about it lately . . .'

'I should think not, just coming from recruit training, since attendance of chapel during training is a court-martial offense. But that's all behind you now and you can be saved. Might I ask if you are of the faith . . .?' "

Southern Baptist Convention galaxy 4000 Harrison, Harry. Bill, the Galactic Hero. New York: Avon (1975; c. 1965); pg. 26. [1] "'My folks were Fundamentalist Zoroastrian, so I suppose . . .'

'Superstition, my boy, rank superstition. It was the hand of fate that brought us together in this ship, that your soul would have this one chance to be saved from the fiery pit. You've heard of Earth?'

'I like plain food . . .'

'It's a planet, my boy--the home of the human race. The home from whence we all sprang, see it, a green and lovely world, a jewel in space...' " [The character named 'Reverend', who greets Bill (a Zoroastrian) as a new recruit, is used by the author to satirize Southern Baptists.]

Southern Baptist Convention galaxy 4000 Harrison, Harry. Bill, the Galactic Hero. New York: Avon (1975; c. 1965); pg. 26. [2] "'...But wars sprang up among the sons of man and they smote each other with the atomic energies until the Earth itself groaned aloud and mighty was the holocaust. And when the final lightnings stilled there was death in the North, death in the West, death in the East, death, death, death. Do you realize what that means?' Tembo's voice was eloquent with feeling, suspended for an instant in mid-flight, waiting for the answer to the catechistical question.

'I'm not quite sure,' Bill said...

'There was no death in the SOUTH! And why was the South spared, I ask you, and the answer is because it was the will of Samedi that all the false prophets an false religions and false gods be wiped from the face of the Earth so that the only true faith should remain. The First Reformed Voodoo Church . . .' " [The character named 'Reverend' is a member of the 'First Reformed Voodoo Church,' which is the author's satirical version of Southern Baptists.]

Southern Baptist Convention galaxy 4000 Harrison, Harry. Bill, the Galactic Hero. New York: Avon (1975; c. 1965); pg. 29. "'Hell awaits you, my boy, unless you are saved. Turn your back on your superstitious ways, for the First Reformed Voodoo Church welcomes you with open arms; come unto her bosom, and find your place in heaven at Samedi's right hand. Sit there with Mondongue and Bakalou and Zandor, who will welcome you.' " [Tembo is one of the major characters in this section of the novel. Some other refs., not in DB, although the author's Voodoo church is a satirical spin on Southern Baptists.]
Southern Baptist Convention Indiana 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 107. "'Okay, what about the conversion experience? How old were you when it happened?'

'I can't tell it like that.' She paused to think. 'Okay. When you grow up knowing about he idea of getting saved, it never hits you the way it hits other people when they hear about it for the first time. I always knew the Plan of Salvation, I can't remember not knowing about it. We learned it in Sunday School. C, B, A: Confess, Believe, Ask...' "

Southern Baptist Convention Indiana 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 107. "'...There's something called the Age of Accountability, that differs from kid to kid. I was baptized wen I was nine, but I probably shouldn't have been. I mean, I wanted to be, but nothing had really changed with me. Mom just brought the subject up one day while she was shampooing my hair . . . actually it was kind of weird. She said something like, 'If anybody at church asked you if you wanted to be baptized, and you said 'My mother and daddy don't want me to,' that wouldn't be true. We don't mind' A pretty roundabout way of going about it; but I went forward the next Sunday, and the Board of Deacons questioned me, and the next time Pastor Seidler baptized a bunch of people he baptized me.' "
Southern Baptist Convention Indiana 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 108. "'...I had recently asked Mom how old was she when she got baptized--I was getting really interest in it. I did really want to be a full member of the church, that's true enough. But there wasn't any changing me--radical change, I mean, as opposed to gradual change--until last year. Whenever people say 'When were you saved,' I always say when I was nine, but I always think of it as happening last year, on a retreat, almost exactly one year ago.'

Liam looked mildly amazed. 'People actually say that to each other? 'When were you saved?' '

'Mm-hm.'

'How old was your mother?'

'She was eight. So anyway. This was an Easter vacation retreat for the middle-school and high-school youth groups, at a cam we go to. The last night of the retreat we had a big campfire and sang a lot of gospel songs, and then Rodney...Music Director... he gave a talk and then people were invited to come up one by one and put a stick on the fire and give a testimony.' "

Southern Baptist Convention Indiana 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 108. "'What's a testimony?'

'Just a personal statement. People say what they're thankful for, or--like--that from right now they're going to dedicate their lives to Christ. I remember we were all humming 'Only Believe.' '

In a different voice Liam said, 'Want to know something? I just realized this. The only time Jeff and I ever sang anything together was on Scout campouts. Jeff was a singer, did Carrie tell you that?' Pam shook her head. 'I mean he was really good--he was a soloist...'

Liam stopped taking. They sat together quietly. Pam understood that for Liam, talking about Jeff was an experiment, a risk, and that the moment called for delicacy. Recognizing this made her tense up. She thanked her stars that at least the thing she had almost said on the boat had remained unspoken. "

Southern Baptist Convention Indiana 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 111. "Liam watched her alertly. After a while he said, 'So what happened? Did you go up and put a stick on the fire and give your whaddyacallit--your witness?'

'Testimony. As a matter of fact, I didn't,' said Pam. 'I jus sat there humming 'Only Believe,' but somehow or other things just kind of--came together. I can't explain it, or even describe it very well, but like I knew I belonged right there, with those people, and the reason was that we all cared so much about the same thing.'

'What thing?'

'God, I guess,' said Pam.

'I don't know what you mean by 'God.' '

Pam bowed her head and thought hard. How had she felt that night by the fire? 'God's the short answer. The long answer is, the Christian life. Living for Jesus. Living like Jesus, as much as you can. Not getting sidetracked by worldly values.'

Liam squirmed a little. 'Give me an example of a worldly value.'

'Money.' "

Southern Baptist Convention Indiana 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 111. "'Give me an example of a worldly value.'

'Money.'

'I notice they took up a collection.'

Pam narrowed her eyes. 'Are you serious about this or what? They have to run the church, get the choir robes cleaned, pay the minister, pay the electric bill--'

'Pay the water bill,' said Liam; and then quickly, before Pam could get mad: 'No, sorry, I am being facetious now. It's because this subject makes me kind of twitchy. I'm afraid I'm going to fin out you're some kind of fanatic, so I keep trying to lighten the mood. Sorry. I am interested, no kidding.' " [More.]

Southern Baptist Convention Indiana 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 107-108. "' 'Went forward'?'

'Yeah, at the end of the service, while they're singing the invitation hymn. You just walk up the aisle, to let everybody know you want to be saved or join the church or whatever.'

' 'Invitation hymn' as in inviting people to 'come forward'?'

'Right. We sang one this morning but nobody went forward.'

'Put off by Brother Otie.' Liam pondered this and shrugged. 'What questions did they ask?'

'The deacons? Oh, like, why did I want to be baptized. I told them what had happened, about my mother washing my hair and what she'd said--which is ridiculous if you think about it--but the deacons all understood the same thing I'm trying to explain to you, that for a kid who grows up in the church there's no sudden realization that Jesus died for your sins. I mean, it's something you've heard since you were born, and anyway it's hard for a nine-year-old to understand what sin or dying means. So I think that part was just a formality...' "

Southern Baptist Convention New Mexico: Atocha 2010 Williams, Walter Jon. Days of Atonement. New York: Tor (1991); pg. 11. "He passed the Southern Baptist Assembly and turned right onto West Plaza. The deco Chamber of Commerce... "
Southern Baptist Convention New York 1958 McCullough, Ken. "Chuck Berry, Won't You Please Come Home " in Again, Dangerous Visions (Harlan Ellison, ed.) Garden City, NY: Doubleday (1972); pg. 462. [Author's self-written biography, in the introduction to his story.] "Born Staten Island, N.Y., July 18, 1943... the first of five children to a... father from Derma, Mississippi... I went off to prep school (St. Andrew's) to get an education. During the year previous I had passed through the puberty rite of being saved, as a Southern Baptist. St. Andrew's is an Episcopal school. After initial hysteria, I was able to fuse these two styles in my peabrain in the best of all possible ways (?). At St. Andrew's I was one of the 'peasants', and had to cop labels from my father's suits during vacations to sew into my Robt. "
Southern Baptist Convention New York 1999 Bear, Greg. Darwin's Radio. New York: Del Rey (1999); pg. 112. "At least fourteen universities and seven companies were interested in her services. She scrolled through the offers... professor biological science at a private college in California, a Christian school, Southern Baptist . . . "
Southern Baptist Convention North Carolina 1998 Bradley, Marion Zimmer & Holly Lisle. In the Rift. New York: Baen (1998); pg. 6. "Freedom of religion might be a constitutionally protected right, but that didn't mean anything in most small towns if the believer belonged to the wrong religion, and Kate knew it. She'd learned the hard way to keep her mouth shut. So what she did know about her attackers--that they were after her because of her religion--the police didn't find out. As a result, they were all very caring but not very helpful. " [The author here refers to religious bigotry in the South promulgated by the Southern Baptist Convention. Other refs. to this theme, but the SBC isn't mentioned specifically by name.]
Southern Baptist Convention Texas 2019 Russell, Mary Doria. The Sparrow. New York: Ballantine (1996); pg. 112. "'Dalton Wesley Yarbrough, New Orleans Provincial of the Society of Jesus, from Waco, Texas, Vatican City of the Southern Baptists.' he announced... "; Pg. 119: "'From Waco, Texas, ma'am,' D. W. Yarbrough began.

'Yes, I know, Vatican City of the Southern Baptists,' Anne said. "

Southern Baptist Convention USA 1980 Knight, Damon. The Observers. New York: Tor (1988); pg. 60. "God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew.
--The Reverend Bailey Smith,
President of the Southern Baptist Convention (1980) "
Southern Baptist Convention USA 1980 Maggin, Elliot S. Superman: Miracle Monday. New York: Warner Books (1981); pg. 54. "Jimmy Carter taught Sunday School.
Martha Kent collected antique bottles... " [Jimmy Carter was a Southern Baptist at the time. This was written before Carter left the Southern Baptist Convention.]
Southern Baptist Convention USA 1999 Willis, Connie. "Newsletter " in Miracle and Other Christmas Stories. New York: Bantam (1999); pg. 235. "'Groups Praise City Hall Christmas Display,' one of the clippings read, and the accompanying picture showed the People for a Non-Commercial Christmas, the Holy Spirit Southern Baptists, and the Equal Rights for Ethnics activists holding hands and singing Christmas carols around the creche. "
Southern Baptist Convention USA 2024 Ellison, Harlan. "A Boy and His Dog " in Nebula Award Stories Five (James Blish, ed.) New York: Pocket Books (1972; 1st ed. 1970; story c. 1969); pg. 37. "There were only a couple of hundred downunders in what was left of the U.S. and Canada. They'd been sunk on the sites of wells or mines or other kinds of deep holes. Some of them, out in the west, were in natural cave formations... Southern Baptists, Fundamentalists, lawanorder goofs, real middleclass squares with no taste for the wild life. And they'd gone back to a kind of life that hadn't existed for a hundred and fifty years. They'd gotten the last of the scientists to do the work, invent the how and why, and then they'd run them out. They didn't want any progress, they didn't want any dissent, they didn't want anything that would make waves. they'd had enough of that. The best time in the world had been just before the First War, and they figured if they could keep it like that, they could live quiet and survive. Sh--! I'd go nuts in one of the downunders. "
Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 28. "'The other thing I can quote besides poetry,' Pam told him, 'is the Bible. The King James Version. The prose is very rhythmical. But I have to sweat a little to get Bible verses to stick in my head.'

'So why try?'

'Well because,' said Pam, 'we're Baptists in my family. The college in Indiana where my father's the head librarian, Scofield College, is affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention, even though we're a little bit on the wrong side of the Mason-Dixon Line...'

Evidently it was Liam's turn to feel alarmed. 'Not Southern Baptist as in Brother Gus Griner! Please! Say it isn't so!' " [Other refs., some may not be in DB, though all refs. to Southern Baptists by name are thought to be. Pam is one of the main characters in the book, and is generally positively portrayed, although she is naturally apologetic for being associated with the SBC.]

Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 28. "...said Pam, 'we're Baptists... The college in Indiana where my father's the head librarian... is affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention...'

Evidently it was Liam's turn to feel alarmed. 'Not Southern Baptist as in Brother Gus Griner! Please! Say it isn't so!'

Pam shook her head vigorously, laughing at him. 'Gladly! 'It isn't so.' Gus Griner's a Grand Dragon or whatever they call it in the Louisiana Ku Klux Klan! You must have heard him ranting on TV about the Hefn. He's got this big mansion in New Orleans and a full-time staff of servants because of al the money people send him; he just steals it! He's a crook! He's a maniac! We have nothing whatsoever to do with Brother Gus Griner.'

'I'm relieved to hear it,' Liam said, sounding relieved.

'No, I mean Southern Baptist more as in Billy Graham, if you know who he was.'

'I've heard the name, I think, but . . .' "

Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 29. "'How does your church [the SBC] square the Hefn with the Bible, anyway?'

Pam smiled. 'Actually, there's no consensus yet. It's only been four years, we're still working on it. But there's Ezekiel's wheel in the middle of a wheel--'

'Way up in the middle of the air?'

'That's the one. Well, there's a precedent if you want to look at it like that; and we've got a bunch of people reconsidering the Book of Revelations in the light of the Hefn and Gafr being here. Did you eve read Revelations? It's the last book of the New Testament.' Liam shook his head. 'The whole thing front to back is symbolic so there's lots of scope for interpretation. But I don't much care what they finally decide,' said Pam, 'I believe in being born again because I had a conversion experience. It happened to me. I was born again--dumb phrase, but that's what Jesus is supposed to have called it.' "

Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 106. "'What I wonder is, how many other people feel like he [Brother Otie Bemis, the rapidly racist Southern Baptist preacher] does? Mom and Matt both 'disapprove of the Hefn' as you put it, but what they mean by that is just that they think we ought to be left alone to work out our own problems, even if we can't. There's something really disturbing about Otie Bemis, Pam, no joke. I wish I knew how many of him there are around the country.'

'Around the middle of the country, I bet you mean. Eastcoast chauvinist. Believe me, as far as I know, Otie Bemis is unique. Are we going to talk about him all afternoon? I thought you wanted to hear about my conversion experience--or did Brother Otie put you off that subject for good?'

'No, no, no. I do want to hear about it. All right, I agree to suspend judgment on Baptists for now, but I'm calling Humphrey tonight all the same.' "

Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 279. "'Any chance the Ku Klux Klan could be involved?'

Aha, said Pam's cool brain. Into her memory flashed an image from a TV documentary, made before the Hefn came: vaguely humanoid figures I white sheets and tall pointed white hoods that came down over their faces, standing around a tall flaming cross and singing 'Onward Christian Soldiers.' The hoods had eyeholes cut out and the sheets had crosses sewn on. A youthful Brother Gus Griner was there, in sheet and hood, singing lustily. Then the screen image had dissolved into an old newspaper photo of a black man hanging from a tree by a rope around his neck, hands tied behind him, neck stretched, head bent at an unnatural angle. Pam heard her father's voice saying, 'Plenty of Klansmen around this neck of the woods, don't think there's not.' Shocked, she had asked him, 'We don't know any, do we?' Shelby had replied, 'Oh, I imagine we do...' "

Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 322. "Religious-Style Persuasion. Bemis's [Bemis is a Southern Baptist preacher] goals were vile, but his techniques were extremely effective. Like Hitler, he'd been preaching against something... " [Preaching against nearby enemies is central to Southern Baptist culture.]
Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 28-29. "'Or wait, there's another televangelist called Tom Grey, who's pretty much on the same wave-length as us, but you might not have seen him preach. He's nowhere near as notorious as Brother Gus, but I really think he's good. Or, hey, I know: Jimmy Carter. Like that. I go to the church Jimmy Carter used to go to in Washington and it's a whole lot like home, only bigger.'

'So,' Liam said warily after a moment, 'do you believe that?'

'All what?'

'Well, you said like Jimmy Carter. Wasn't he the one that made the expression 'born-again Christian' a household word?' Pam nodded. 'So do you believe in being born again?'

'You sound like you're hoping and praying I'll say no,' Pam said, 'but I pretty much do. And excuse me for saying so, but I doubt if you know what being born again means.' "

Southern Baptist Convention USA 2026 Moffett, Judith. Time, Like an Ever-Rolling Stream. New York: St. Martin's Press (1992); pg. 29. "'Just tell me if it's true that Baptists don't believe in evolution.'

'Some do, some don't,' said Pam. 'I do. I'm not a strict Fundamentalist, I know Adam and Eve and the Flood and all that are myths. But I believe in Jesus, and I do believe in being born again. Are you sorry you asked me to dinner?' "

Southern Baptist Convention USA - South 1992 Snodgrass, Melinda M. Wild Cards X: Double Solitaire. New York: Bantam (1992); pg. 386. "'Because I am of House Vayawand, and for seven thousand years my line can be traced... This [change]... is destroying our unique way of life.'

Before she'd dropped out of high school and run away to New York, Kelly had remembered his American history teacher saying that was how the Southerners justified slavery. He didn't think it was politic to bring this up to Mon'aella just now when she was being so nice to him. "

Southern Baptist Convention world 2050 Bova, Ben. "Acts of God " in Sam Gunn Forever. New York: Avon (1998; c. 1995); pg. 38. "'Another thing,' Sam added. 'You guys have been working for a century or so to heal the rifts among other Christians. Imagine how the Protestants will feel if they see the Vatican getting special treatment from the World Court.'

'Finding the Vatican innocent of responsibility for your industrial accidents is hardly special treatment,' said Pope William.

'Maybe you think so, but how will the Swedes feel about it? Or the Orthodox Catholic in Greece and Russia and so on? Or the Southern Baptists?' "

Southern Methodist Church galaxy 2425 Kato, Ken. Yamato: A Rage in Heaven. New York: Time Warner (1990); pg. 372. "Bowen had begotten three women with child at least, and in three separate systems. He had sworn to each that she was his only wife, though none were that in any Christian sense, as Nowell, the Southern Methodist lay preacher, had scolded him. "
Spartan Alabama 1993 Ellison, Harlan. Mefisto in Onyx. Shingletown, CA: Mark. V. Ziesing Books (1993); pg. 65. "...like the three hundred Spartans facing the tens of thousands of Xerxes's army at the Hot Gate. "
Spartan California 1975 Dick, Philip K. The Transmigration of Timothy Archer. New York: Timescape Books (1982); pg. 69. "If the impulse to slay the Spartan runners reporting the battle results, the outcome at Thermopylae, rises in you, by all means slay them. I am one of those runners and I report what you do not want. "


Spartan, continued

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