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Platonism galaxy 3419 Panshin, Alexei. The Thurb Revolution. New York: Ace Books (1978; c. 1968); pg. 140. "Valuing names as they do, Realists are sparing with them. They are likely to be known only as Joe or Bill or Plato. And they don't smile much. "
Platonism galaxy 3509 Clarke, Arthur C. The Songs of Distant Earth. New York: Ballantine (1986); pg. 232. "'I know, of course, that Plato's Atlantis never really existed. And for that very reason, it can never die. It will always be an ideal--a dream of perfection--a goal to inspire men for all ages to come. So that's why the symphony ends with a triumphant march into the future. I know that the popular interpretation of the march is a New Atlantis emerging from the waves. That's rather too literal; to me...' " [More.]
Platonism galaxy 4004 Drew, Wayland. The Master of Norriya in The Erthring Cycle (omnibus). Garden City, NY: Nelson Doubleday (c. 1986); pg. 577. "'You know about the Abbreviators, those whose job it was to place abstracts and summaries and synopses into the memory of SKULD. It was for the convenience of everyone, they said. No one had time to read, they said, at least not all that excessive verbiage. Two pages became the measure. In their hands, everything became two pages long. The Bible, The Tempest, The Republic, Paradise Lost. There they were, neatly capsulized in the memory of SKULD, waiting to be printed out on two pages. So, of course, for the thousands of novices who read nothing else, those summaries became the work. "
Platonism galaxy 22995 Benford, Gregory. Foundation's Fear. New York: HarperCollins (1997); pg. 224. "Voltaire without his words was like Samson without his locks, Alexander without his sword, Plato without Ideas, Don Quixote without his fantasy, Don Juan without women... "
Platonism Greece -1647 B.C.E. Hand, Elizabeth. Catwoman. New York: Ballantine (2004). Based on screenplay by John Rogers, Mike Ferris, and John Brancato; pg. 161. Ophelia Power's note: Nearly five thousand years ago, the civilization of people we call the Minoans was destroyed in the cataclysmic eruption of Thera, their island capital. It was one of hte most devastating volcanic events of recorded history, and probably inspired Plato's account of the legendary island of Atlantis.
Platonism Greece -347 B.C.E. Anthony, Piers. Vision of Tarot. New York: Berkley Books (1985; 1st ed. 1980); pg. 62. "Famous Greeks had come here to study at the feet of the Masters: Thales, Pythagoras, Plato, and others... Plato, primarily for his Dialogues, presenting his mentor Socrates and the thesis that Knowledge is Good, Ignorance Evil. Giants of philosophy, all of them. "
Platonism Luna 2015 Leiber, Fritz. The Wanderer. New York: Walker & Co. (1964); pg. 10. Pg. 10: "Paul too turned his gaze on the moon, or rather toward a point near its top, above the Mare Imbrium shadow. He couldn't distinguish the crater Plato holding Moonbase U.S., but he knew it was in view. "; Pg. 29: "Each screen showed the same area of darkened moon, an area which took in Plato. "
Platonism Luna 2040 Clarke, Arthur C. Childhood's End. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World (1981; c. 1953); pg. 89. "The rising moon... Up there, Jan knew, was the main base of the Overlords, lying within the ramparts of Plato. "
Platonism Luna 2075 Heinlein, Robert A. The Moon is a Harsh Mistress. New York: G.P. Putnam's Sons (1966); pg. 27. "'...Mannie, this little girl is Wyoming Knott and she came all the ay from Plato to tell us how we're doing in Hong Kong...' " [A city has been named after Plato.]
Platonism Luna 2082 Haldeman, Joe. Buying Time. New York: William Morrow & Co. (1989); pg. 11. "On the Moon he had climbed the Straight Wall and tramped the Plato desert in search of fairy lights. " [Also pg. 143.]
Platonism Luna 2110 Clarke, Arthur C. The Hammer of God. New York: Bantam (1993); pg. 35. "The three-kilometer-wide roof over a crater near the eastern wall of Plato enclosed the largest single airspace on the Moon... "
Platonism Mars 2011 Zubrin, Robert. First Landing. New York: Ace Books (2002; c. 2001); pg. 26. "...they were the only two at home in the world of ideas from Plato to Shakespeare, intellectuals who were passionate about real music and real poetry. "
Platonism Mars 2110 Clarke, Arthur C. The Hammer of God. New York: Bantam (1993); pg. 210. "Captain Singh could easily locate Clavius Base, Port Armstrong, Plato City... "
Platonism Nebraska 2059 Piercy, Marge. He, She and It. New York: Alfred A. Knopf (1991); pg. 418. "It took people a few minutes to react fully, because speakers had already quoted the Mishnah, Rabbi Loew, Marx and the Marx Brothers, Freud, Robert Burns, Shopenhauer, Plato, Ben Rah, Gertrude Stein, Krazy Kat and Rabbi Nachman... "
Platonism Nevada: Las Vegas 1992 Powers, Tim. Last Call. New York: William Morrow & Co. (1992); pg. 204. "'Archimedes? Have you got Plato out in the car, too? Let him do the talking.' "
Platonism New York: New York City 1975 Russ, Joanna. The Female Man. New York: G. K. Hall (1977; 1975); pg. 139. "We love, says Plato, that in which we are defective; when we see our magical Self in the mirror of another, we pursue it with desperate cries... "
Platonism New York: New York City 1987 Williams, Walter Jon. "Mortality " in Wild Cards V: Down and Dirty (George R. R. Martin, ed.) New York: Bantam (1988); pg. 465. "'Your ancient philosophers never thought about that, right?'

'I suppose they didn't. But they had a lot of things to say about mortality in general. 'Must not all things be swallowed in death'--Plato, quoting Socrates.' "

Platonism New York: New York City 2000 Silverberg, Robert. The Stochastic Man. New York: Harper & Row (1975); pg. 69. "Transit, of course, wasn't Hindu--more a mixture of Buddhism and fascism, actually, a stew of Zen and Tantra and Platonism and Gestalt therapy... "
Platonism North America 2027 Atack, Chris. Project Maldon. New York: Baen (1997); pg. 131. "'...She sees reality shining through a haze of misty Platonic concepts like justice and democracy.' "
Platonism Roman Empire 284 C.E. Bradley, Marion Zimmer & Diana L. Paxson Priestess of Avalon. New York: Viking (2001); pg. 197. "'...Thus, there are the Sophists, who doubt everything, and the followers of Plato, who believe that only archetypes are real, the mystical Pythagoreans, and the Aristotelian logicians. Each philosophy gives us a different tool with which to understand the world.' "
Platonism Roman Empire 307 C.E. Bradley, Marion Zimmer & Diana L. Paxson Priestess of Avalon. New York: Viking (2001); pg. 290. "'But Virgin himself was a pagan--' I observed.

'He was,' answered Lactantius, 'but so noble in soul that the light of God was able to reach him, as it did so many of our greatest poets, men of the highest genius. Seneca and Maro and Cicero, of our own Roman writers, and Plato and Aristotle and Thales and many another among the Greeks, all touch upon the truth in places, and only the custom of their times, which insisted that God was not One, but many, caused them to continue to honor false gods.' "

Platonism Roman Empire 500 C.E. Garfinkle, Richard. Celestial Matters. New York: Tor (1996); pg. 47. "He threw up his hands in melodramatic disgust. 'Would you rather we wasted our time with Platonist dithering on the nature of ideal forms while the Middle Kingdom conquered us with their impossible Taoist science?'

'I knew that dirty word 'Platonist' would come out eventually. 'No, Pisistratos, I do not want to waste our time on that nonsense. But I do want the students to know how we came to study science and nothing else.' "

Platonism Roman Empire 500 C.E. Garfinkle, Richard. Celestial Matters. New York: Tor (1996); pg. 51. "If I told them the truth about Alexander and Aristotle, they'd ignore me... It would make no difference to them if I told this assemblage that Aristotle had connived with Alexander to purge the Platonists from the Akademe by force.

If I proved to them that the founder of modern science had sacrificed his philosophy to make weapons for a boy who thought he was a god long before his dead and apotheosis, it would not matter. These pursuers of truth would not care that Aristotle gave up his vision of uniting all knowledge so he could become master of the school founded by Plato, the teacher he hated. " [More. Many other refs. not in DB.]

Platonism Texas 1996 Leon, Mark. The Unified Field. New York: Avon Books (1996); pg. 40. "'...obscure references in one of the Platonic dialogues.'

'The Critias,' Alan said. 'Most scholars place it among Plato's final works. The myth of Atlantis figures into Plato's discussion of the ideal society.' " [Also pg. 198, 256.]

Platonism United Kingdom 249 C.E. Bradley, Marion Zimmer & Diana L. Paxson Priestess of Avalon. New York: Viking (2001); pg. 13. "Corinthius lifted one eyebrow. 'A single sun shines here and in the land where I was born, though we call it by different names. In the realm of Idea, the great principles behind the forms that we see are the same.'

I frowned, trying to make sense of his words. He had attempted to explain the teachings of the philosopher Plato, but I found them hard to understand. Each place I came to had its own spirit, as distinct as human souls. " [Other refs., not in DB.]

Platonism United Kingdom: England 1972 Adams, Richard. Watership Down. New York: Macmillan Publishing Co. (1972); pg. 365. [Chapter heading.] "You will be sure to prove that the act is unjust and hateful to the gods? Yes, indeed, Socrates; at least, if they will listen to me.

--Plato, Euthyphro "

Platonism United Kingdom: London 1500 C.E. Moorcock, Michael. Gloriana. New York: Warner Books (1986; c 1978); pg. 41. "...beside the gothic walls of the Platonic College, to a plaza... "
Platonism United Kingdom: London 1500 C.E. Moorcock, Michael. Gloriana. New York: Warner Books (1986; c 1978); pg. 61. "'On the contrary. It could be argued that I am needed while noble souls of your sort continue to exert themselves. After all, Plato tells us how vulnerable is the age of the perfect monarch.' "
Platonism United Kingdom: London 1720 Keyes, J. Gregory. Newton's Cannon. New York: Ballantine (1998); pg. 276. "'In any event,' Newton went on more distractedly, 'you asked about the Greeks. Pythagoras and Plato, I think, had a good enough knowledge of the science I have rediscovered, but they made the mistake of enshrining it in mystical symbol. Aristotle and his Peripatetic followers failed to understand that, and their stupidity drew a shade over knowledge that has lasted more than two millennia.' "
Platonism United Kingdom: London 2075 Ryman, Geoff. The Child Garden; or A Low Comedy. New York: St. Martin's Press (1989); pg. 174. "And so Milena tried to catch up. She had been six years old when she started. The first book she had read, or tried to read, was Plato's Republic. Do I remember a word of it? "
Platonism United Kingdom: London 2075 Ryman, Geoff. The Child Garden; or A Low Comedy. New York: St. Martin's Press (1989); pg. 178. "'Sounds like the viruses,' said Milena. 'Just like the viruses. Plato would have hated the [knowledge] viruses, too.'

The School Nurse laughed. 'Very good, Milena, yes, yes he would have hated the viruses. As we all know, he and Aristotle founded the Axis of Materialist and Idealistic thinking, both of which the Golden Stream swept away. Plato believed in dictators. He certainly would have hated the Consensus, our democracy... Are you an idealist, then Milena? Do you think you are just a shadow on the wall of a cave? Perhaps you disagree with Plato and are a materialist...' " [More.]

Platonism USA 1986 Wolfe, Gene. Soldier of the Mist. New York: Tor (1986); pg. xiv. "If the average well-read American were asked to name five famous Greeks, he would probably answer, 'Homer, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Pericles.' Critics of Latro's account would do well to recall that Homer had been dead for four hundred years at the time Latro wrote, and that no one had heard of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, or Pericles. "
Platonism USA 1992 Dick, Philip K. Ubik. Garden City, NY: Doubleday (1969); pg. 122. "But this old theory--didn't Plato think that something survived the decline, something inner not able to decay? The ancient dualism: body separated from soul. The body ending as Wendy did, and the soul--out of its nest the bird, flown elsewhere. "
Platonism USA 1993 Simmons, Dan. The Hollow Man. New York: Bantam (1993); pg. 103. "...Kurt Godel that mathematical entities exist independently of the human mind... I choose to reject Godel's Platonism in favor of Jeremy's stance of formalism... " [More.]
Platonism USA 1995 Scholz, Carter. "Radiance " in New Legends. Greg Bear (ed.) New York: Tor (1995); pg. 236. "Shops, granite benches, low fountains, and climbing plants ringed a pool in which stood a steel sculpture of crippled symmetry, as if a Platonic solid had ruptured. "
Platonism USA 1999 Kessel, John. Good News from Outer Space. New York: Tor (1990; c. 1989); pg. 142. "'--Marxists and Capitalists--' said Concepcion.

'--Platonists and Existentialists--' Luz said. "

Platonism USA 2000 Dick, Philip K. "The Pre-Persons " in The Golden Man. New York: Berkley (1980; c. 1974); pg. 314. -
Platonism USA 2000 Drake, Robert. "Power " in Circa 2000: Gay Fiction at the Millennium (Robert Drake & Terry Wolverton, eds). Los Angeles, CA: Alyson Pub. (2000); pg. 106. "...Plato's Symposium that '[The gods] honored Achilles and sent him to the Islands of the Blest...' " [More.]
Platonism USA 2010 Brackett, Leigh. The Long Tomorrow. New York: Ballantine (1974); pg. 88. "...he wondered whether... refuge was very different from Piper's Run, and if Amity was worth having come all this way for. Amity, or Plato. He had not read Plato in Piper's Run, and he had read him in Refuge, but Plato did not seem like the whole answer either. "
Platonism USA 2020 Dick, Philip K. & Roger Zelazny. Deus Irae. Garden City, NY: Doubleday (1976); pg. 155. "'I see. Aquinas cleaned up the Greeks for you, so Plato is okay. Hell, you even baptized Aristotle's bones, for that matter, once you found a use for his thoughts. Take away the Greek logicians and the Jewish mystics and you wouldn't have much left.' "
Platonism USA 2030 Bradbury, Ray. Fahrenheit 451. New York: Ballantine (1991; c. 1953); pg. 76. "'How many copies of Shakespeare and Plato?'

'None! You know as well as I do. None!' "

Platonism USA 2030 Bradbury, Ray. Fahrenheit 451. New York: Simon and Schuster (1967); pg. 138-139. "'But I've tried to remember!' [Meaning, memorize printed material from now-burned and banned books.]

'Don't try. It'll come when we need it. All of us have photographic memories, but spend a lifetime learning how to block off the things that are really in there... Would you like, some day, Montag, to read Plato's Republic?'

'Of course!'

'I am Plato's Republic. Like to read Marcus Aurelius? Mr. Simmons is Marcus.' " [Ballantine edition (1991): pg. 151.]

Platonism Utah: Beaver County 2010 Hickman, Tracy. The Immortals. New York: ROC/Penguin Books (1997; c. 1996); pg. 329. "'...Plato has long gone to dust, yet we learn from his words...' "
Platonism world -3005 B.C.E. Gaskell, Jane. The Serpent. New York: St. Martin's Press (1977; c. 1963); pg. 8. -
Platonism world -1400 B.C.E. Anderson, Poul. The Dancer from Atlantis. Garden City, NY: Nelson Doubleday (1971); pg. 87. "If you reconstructed the single original island, you got a picture oddly suggestive of the capital of Atlantis as described by Plato; and ancient walls were known to be buried under the lava and cinders. That settlement might be better preserved than Pompeii, what parts had not vanished in the catastrophe.

To be sure, Plato could simply have been embellishing his discourses in the Timaios and the Kritias with a fiction. He had put his lost continent in midocean, impossibly big and impossibly far back if it was to have fought Athens. Yet there was some reason to believe he drew on a tradition, that half-memory of the Minoan empire which flickered through classical legend.

Assume his figures were in error. He claimed to derive the story from Solon, who had it from an Egyptian priest, who said he drew on records in another, older language. Translating from Egyptian to Greek numerals, you could easily get numbers... "

Platonism world -1400 B.C.E. Anderson, Poul. The Dancer from Atlantis. Garden City, NY: Nelson Doubleday (1971); pg. 88. "Plato was logically forced to move his Atlantis beyond the Pillars of Hercules. The Mediterranean didn't have room for it. But take away the obviously invented hinterland. Shrink the city plan by one order of magnitude... "
Platonism world 650 C.E. Silverberg, Robert. "A Hero of the Empire " in The Year's Best Science Fiction, Vol. 17 (Gardner Dozois, ed.) New York: St. Martin's Press (2000); pg. 363. "I disputed that, reaching into my school days for maxims out of Plato and Marcus Aurelius to argue that all gods are reflections of the true godhood. But it was no use. He saw instantly through my Roman indifference to religion. "
Platonism world 1867 Verne, Jules. Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea. New York: Charles Scribner's Sons (1953; c. 1870); pg. 243. "ATLANTIS

What lightning flashed through my mind! Atlantis, that ancient land of Meropis mentioned by the historian Theopompus; Plato's Atlantis; the continent whose very existence has been denied by such philosophers and scientists as Origen, Porphyry, Iamblichus, d'Anville, Malte-Brun, and Humboldt, who entered its disappearance in the ledger of myths and folk tales... The writer whose narratives record the lofty deeds of those heroic times is Plato himself. His dialogues Timaeus and Critias were drafted with the poet and legislator Solon as their inspiration, as it were. [More, not in DB.]

Platonism world 1956 de Camp, L. Sprague. "Aristotle and the Gun " in Modern Classics of Science Fiction. (Gardner Dozois, ed.) New York: St. Martin's Press (1991; story c. 1956); pg. 28. "Now, if I could catch Aristotle at the right period of his career... When would that be? Normally, one would take him as a young man. But Aristotle's entire youth, from seventeen to thirty-seven, was spent in Athens listening to Plato's lectures. I did not wish to compete with Plato, an overpowering personality who could argue rings round everybody. His viewpoint was mystical and anti-scientific, the very thing I wanted to steer Aristotle away from. Many of Aristotle's intellectual vices can be traced back to Plato's influence.

I did not think it wise to present myself in Athens either during Aristotle's early period, when he was a student under Plato, or later, when he headed his own school. "

Platonism world 1956 de Camp, L. Sprague. "Aristotle and the Gun " in Modern Classics of Science Fiction. (Gardner Dozois, ed.) New York: St. Martin's Press (1991; story c. 1956); pg. 55. "There were even Herodotos' history and Plato's dialogues, identical with the versions that existed in my own world. "
Platonism world 1966 Ballard, J. G. The Crystal World. New York: Farrar, Straus & Giroux (1966); pg. 96. "The process is theoretically without end, and it may be possible eventually for a single atom to produce an infinite number of duplicates of itself and so fill the entire universe, from which simultaneously all time has expired, an ultimate macrocosmic zero beyond the wildest dreams of Plato and Democritus. "
Platonism world 1966 Keyes, Daniel. Flowers for Algernon. New York: Harcourt, Brace & World (1966) [frontispiece]; pg. -2. [A quote from Plato.] "Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eyes are of two kinds, and arise from two cuses, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye; and he who remembers this when he sees any one whose vision is perplexed and weak, will not be too ready to laugh; he will ask first whether that soul of man has come out of the brighter life, and is unable to see because unaccustomed to the dark, or having turned from darkness to day is dazzled by excess of light. And he will count the one happy in his condition and state of being, and he will pity the other; or, if he have a mind to laugh at the soul which comes from below into the light, there will be more reason in this than in the laugh which greets him who returns from above out of the light into the den.
--Plato, The Republic "
Platonism world 1972 Heidenry, John. "The Counterpoint of View " in Again, Dangerous Visions (Harlan Ellison, ed.) Garden City, NY: Doubleday (1972); pg. 3. "..most ingeniously in the lucid speculations of the neo-Platonic divine, George Berkeley, who attained such mastery that of his subtleties Hume could say... "
Platonism world 1990 Egan, Greg. "Learning to Be Me " in Immortals (Jack Dann & Gardner Dozois, eds.) New York: Ace Books (1998; c. 1990); pg. 148. "The Philosophy Department... They talked about Plato and Descartes and Marx... "
Platonism world 1991 Bell, M. Shayne. Nicoji. New York: Baen (1991) [Quote before beginning of book.] "Not life, but a good life, is to be chiefly valued.

--Plato, Crito "

Platonism world 1998 Disch, Thomas M. The Dreams Our Stuff Is Made Of: How Science Fiction Conquered the World. New York: Simon & Schuster (2000; c. 1998); pg. 27. "His first and most imitated fabrication was a work of pseudo-archaeology, Atlantis: The Antediluvian World (1882), in which he argued 'that the description of this island given by Plato is not, as has been long supposed, fable, but veritable history,' and that it was 'the region where man first rose from a state of barbarism to civilization, . . . from whose overflowings the shores of the Gulf of Mexico, the Mississippi River, the Amazon, the Pacific coast of South America, the Mediterranean, the west coast of Europe and Africa, the Baltic, the Black Sea, and the Caspian were populated by civilized nations.' In short, all recorded history is in error, except for Plato and the Book of Genesis. (Even in 1882, Donnelly knew that the best way to pitch a flaky theory is to connect it with a tenet of fundamentalist faith. If you can believe in Noah's ark, why not Atlantis?' " [Also pg. 63, 104.]
Platonism world 1998 Disch, Thomas M. The Dreams Our Stuff Is Made Of: How Science Fiction Conquered the World. New York: Simon & Schuster (2000; c. 1998); pg. 152. "...experienced anamnesis... a Platonic term for the experience of recollecting eternal truths... "
Platonism world 1998 Wilson, Robert Charles. Mysterium. New York: Bantam (1994); pg. 117. "'...all the way to Moses and the pharaohs. Egypt, Greece, and Rome are presented as fairy tales--Romulus and Remus and the genius of Plato and so on...' "
Platonism world 1998 Wilson, Robert Charles. Mysterium. New York: Bantam (1994); pg. 190. "'He was always playing with the grand systems... Hegel, Platonism, the Gnostics--' "
Platonism world 2000 Barad, Judith & Ed Robertson The Ethics of Star Trek. New York: HarperCollins (2000) [Non-fiction. Page numbers from book's index.] Pg. xv, 26, 29-33, 35, 36, 38, 43, 49-50, 53n, 55, 58-60, 61n, 63, 65-69, 71-76, 78-83, 85-95, 97, 103, 121, 134-35, 137, 141, 149, 163-66, 168-69, 194-95, 207n, 212, 283n, 299, 327, 345-46, 350
Platonism world 2001 Bradbury, Ray. From the Dust Returned. New York: HarperCollins (2001); pg. 18. "...her mouth would echo twelve tongues and twenty sets of mind, philosophies enough to crack Plato at noon or Aristotle at midnight. "
Platonism world 2001 Mangels, Andy & Michael A. Martin. Rogue (Star Trek: TNG). New York: Pocket Books (2001) [Frontispiece] "Everything that deceives may be said to enchant.

--Plato, The Republik, 329. "

Platonism world 2008 Carter, Raphael. "Congenital Agenesis of Gender Ideation by K. N Sirsi and Sandra Botkin " in Starlight 2 (Patrick Nielsen Hayden, ed.). New York: Tor (1998); pg. 104. "As we observed at the beginning of this essay, philosophers have been talking about innate ideas at least since Plato. Most have supposed that innate ideas were given by God, and therefore must be true. "
Platonism world 2010 Bury, Stephen. Interface. New York: Bantam (1994); pg. 309. Pg. 309: two-paragraph quote from Plato's Republic; Pg. 326: "There was a story mentioned in Plato's Republic. Gyges, being invisible, could get away with anything. If he used his power to do evil, but no one saw him, and he was thought to be a just man, then why did he ever suffer for his crimes. " [More, pg. 327.]
Platonism world 2015 Leiber, Fritz. The Wanderer. New York: Walker & Co. (1964); pg. 51. "'But I've visited them for years in my thoughts. I'm as sure of their reality as Plato was of universals or Euclid of infinity. Ispan and Arletta and Brima have to exist, just like God. I know...' "


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